1 00:01:01,120 --> 00:02:20,150 we will be going live soon 2 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:22,790 all right sorry about that i was muted 3 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:23,920 um 4 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:27,360 yesterday i was excited 5 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:29,440 i think yesterday was interesting and 6 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:35,350 i was looking forward to today until 7 00:02:38,949 --> 00:02:36,800 today happened 8 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:38,959 it's just 9 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:41,120 all over the place 10 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:43,040 the lectures uh 11 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:45,680 i felt that the lectures were 12 00:02:49,589 --> 00:02:47,440 disjointed 13 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:49,599 thank you david and i haven't been able 14 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:51,519 to check any messages i saw a message 15 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:53,599 but i'm just it's it's impossible to 16 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:55,280 take notes and then eat and then take 17 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:57,680 notes and then come here 18 00:03:01,030 --> 00:02:59,440 so i can breathe now and i'm going to 19 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:01,040 take my time because the next lecture 20 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:07,030 and as far as channeling yes 21 00:03:10,949 --> 00:03:08,640 and that's there's more of that today 22 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:10,959 there's more regression 23 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:13,200 and um you guys will see i'm gonna take 24 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,239 you through 25 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:16,879 i don't even there's 26 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:18,319 the lecture i'm going to go through the 27 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:19,840 first lecture i don't really want to go 28 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:21,920 through the woo lecture not that it's 29 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:25,440 not that it's not true i don't know but 30 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:27,280 it's a little and i've and i've 31 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:28,640 experienced i've read about this 32 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:30,239 material before and i will share some 33 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:34,959 personal stories but we will start with 34 00:03:38,949 --> 00:03:37,760 mary rodwell who's a researcher 35 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:38,959 in 36 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:40,799 australia she did a recorded 37 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:42,879 presentation 38 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:44,319 and 39 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:46,959 the kids you see when you see a slide 40 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:48,239 i'm just gonna rely on her slides 41 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,640 because she spoke from the slides 42 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:53,280 the kids 43 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:55,840 have recall from an early age so it's 44 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:58,000 like when young kids have recall of a 45 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,760 past life 46 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:01,680 they have recall of something a little 47 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:02,879 more 48 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:05,040 you know a past life on this planet is 49 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:08,239 the normal story you'll hear 50 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:11,519 this is more than that you'll see 51 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:13,840 but first off if you are interested in 52 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:15,439 reincarnation and you want to look at 53 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:17,840 the scientific as far as much science as 54 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:19,440 you can get with that subject because 55 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:20,720 it's tough 56 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:23,040 ian stevenson 57 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:24,960 uh jim tucker 58 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:26,720 those two he tucker took over for 59 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:28,080 stevenson 60 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,280 i realized that there was something 61 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:33,840 to reincarnation i had read many lives 62 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:35,759 many many masters and then another book 63 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:39,199 called life between life which was 64 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:40,800 written by and i 65 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:43,680 wrote a note it was written by 66 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:46,479 whitton and fisher life between lives so 67 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:48,880 i read those two books but then 68 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:50,960 i discovered ian stevenson and i'm like 69 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:53,360 oh shoot this is like really this is you 70 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:55,040 know as a scientist would take it this 71 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:56,880 is really interesting and then 72 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:58,560 i read that in the washington post 73 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:00,880 magazine one sunday i was i think it was 74 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:01,840 online 75 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:04,000 had my newsletter back then open my news 76 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:05,199 and then 77 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:07,440 he passed away and jim tucker took up 78 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:10,400 his work as far as media coverage uh 79 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:13,199 books leslie kane talks about some good 80 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:15,759 reincarnation evidence and tom schroeder 81 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:18,800 i think in the um 82 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,360 the special on the afterlife that leslie 83 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:22,880 kane was involved with they did some of 84 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:24,720 those cases i forget the name of that 85 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:26,560 show 86 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:28,800 all right so we're gonna go with 87 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:30,720 hi linda i got your message too and i 88 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:32,160 have not been able to respond to any 89 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:33,840 messages because i'm afraid to take a 90 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:35,600 break for a minute because then i miss 91 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:37,039 something and i get lost during the 92 00:05:41,189 --> 00:05:38,800 lectures all right let me go through the 93 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:41,199 notes mary rodwell 94 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:42,320 and i know 95 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:44,240 i'm not going to get a lot of this right 96 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:47,600 and i am a little scared about today 97 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:48,560 so 98 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:51,840 she starts off and like i said the kids 99 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:54,639 she talks to have full recall they have 100 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:56,800 these memories 101 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,800 and 102 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,280 she says we're challenged on a multiple 103 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:03,360 we're challenged on multiple levels for 104 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:05,199 how we see the world 105 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:08,639 and she talks about new kids being born 106 00:06:12,390 --> 00:06:10,000 i guess they came into the world in the 107 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,400 late 90s and the word was used was 108 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:14,560 indigo children like these kids have 109 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:17,280 amazing recall 110 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:18,160 um 111 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:22,160 amazing abilities at a young age 112 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:24,160 and i'm gonna go through her slides 113 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,680 and here we go with the blinking which i 114 00:06:30,150 --> 00:06:27,919 don't know why that does that 115 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:30,160 so she says spiritual cosmology god has 116 00:06:35,189 --> 00:06:33,360 no gender and is a being i call on 117 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:35,199 that's 118 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:38,400 from a kathy age nine 119 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:40,560 god has no gender and is a being i call 120 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:41,520 on 121 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:44,639 and then it says over terrestrial 122 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:46,800 who sowed the seeds of love and light 123 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:48,800 yeah a nine-year-old is saying that i 124 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:50,720 think at nine i was eating cereal and 125 00:06:59,749 --> 00:06:56,629 spiritual catalyst awakening to an 126 00:07:03,589 --> 00:06:59,759 expanded paradigm 127 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,599 so what awakens awakens them is 128 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:05,759 you know ufo sighting interaction with 129 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:07,280 the non-human intelligence near-death 130 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:09,599 experience out of body experience 131 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:11,280 shamanic experience exploring 132 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:12,880 multi-dimensional awareness healing and 133 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:14,880 energy work profound grief or other 134 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:16,639 life-changing experience perceived 135 00:07:21,189 --> 00:07:19,199 energy orbs feeling presences 136 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:21,199 spontaneous past life recall and 137 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:22,400 hypnosis 138 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:23,840 i think the only one out of those i've 139 00:07:27,270 --> 00:07:25,599 had is 140 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:27,280 allegedly the precursor of an 141 00:07:32,070 --> 00:07:30,080 out-of-body experience 142 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:32,080 uh i have not had anything else i mean i 143 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:34,639 had energy work as far as a massage and 144 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:36,800 it helped but i didn't feel anything 145 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:38,880 i think i am psychically dead except 146 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:40,479 when i do remote viewing i'll get some 147 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,869 and 148 00:07:49,029 --> 00:07:46,800 shamanic i mean 149 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:49,039 yeah i tried some shamanic drumming on 150 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:50,879 headphones 151 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:53,039 put me to sleep but it was fun to listen 152 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:56,080 to all right let's see 153 00:08:02,790 --> 00:07:57,440 she did i'll check like i think i had 154 00:08:06,869 --> 00:08:04,950 so spiritual text traditional spiritual 155 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,879 texts uh indicate a broader perspective 156 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:08,319 of who we are and how we interpret our 157 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:09,280 beliefs 158 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:11,680 recognition recognition that personal 159 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,520 experience can dramatically alter some 160 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:15,440 of the previous rich religious and 161 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:18,479 spiritual beliefs we've had 162 00:08:22,629 --> 00:08:20,160 although the people in my life that is 163 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:22,639 not the case uh as far as i know all the 164 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:24,160 people that i've grown up with who are 165 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:26,080 christian and that's my entire family 166 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:27,840 none of them have changed 167 00:08:33,029 --> 00:08:30,240 and some of them had some of them have 168 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,039 had paranormal type experiences but 169 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,240 their beliefs have not changed um 170 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:38,159 and when you do have those religious 171 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:39,680 beliefs and then have some other some 172 00:08:43,269 --> 00:08:41,599 sort of paranormal experience she 173 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:43,279 mentioned it's a conflict of spiritual 174 00:08:46,389 --> 00:08:44,640 paradigms 175 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:46,399 and we'll get to that a little later but 176 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:48,480 it's like you and i'll say it again 177 00:08:51,590 --> 00:08:50,240 later she said you can talk about angels 178 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:51,600 you could talk about gods but if you 179 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:54,320 talk about a ufo or non-human beings 180 00:08:58,790 --> 00:08:56,080 you're looked at differently it really 181 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:58,800 should not be i mean 182 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:00,640 there's really and i'm not saying don't 183 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:02,160 take this the wrong way but as far as 184 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:03,200 evidence 185 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,880 whether or not people see an angel or 186 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:06,640 non-human beings it's the same level of 187 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:07,920 evidence you really don't have the 188 00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:09,200 evidence unless there's more than one 189 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:10,640 witness 190 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:12,880 so it should be taken the same way but 191 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:14,160 it's not it's thought of different in 192 00:09:22,070 --> 00:09:19,990 she talks about reincarnation 193 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:22,080 spontaneous recall or through a catalyst 194 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:24,800 such as hypnosis to recall 195 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:27,279 but then she goes into the stuff that 196 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:29,279 makes me a little uncomfortable but i 197 00:09:32,949 --> 00:09:31,040 mean i don't rule it out you know they 198 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:32,959 recall lives on other planets other 199 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:36,000 universes other dimensions 200 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:40,630 like i said the first book i read was 201 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:42,160 was life 202 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:44,880 many lives many masters with 203 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:47,360 look at his name brian white's 204 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:49,760 and he used he used hypnosis for those 205 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:51,040 sessions but 206 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:52,720 it's a great read if you ever get to 207 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:55,120 read many lives many many masters and it 208 00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:56,880 no matter what even if those stories 209 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:58,800 were not true it helped his patients and 210 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:01,680 that's really all he cared about 211 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:04,320 and then she talks about soul swap walk 212 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,640 in souls 213 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:08,480 what is this telling us about the nature 214 00:10:15,829 --> 00:10:11,440 of the soul um 215 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:17,430 so 216 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:25,200 florida 217 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:27,360 and it was i think it was like an hour 218 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:29,200 north of tampa 219 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:30,240 and 220 00:10:35,509 --> 00:10:33,600 this guy claimed to be a walking soul so 221 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:35,519 he claimed to be a palladian walking 222 00:10:41,829 --> 00:10:38,160 soul so supposedly this palladian soul 223 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:41,839 got bored or wanted to come here 224 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:43,680 took the place of the human soul and 225 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:45,440 then the human soul left and then this 226 00:10:49,269 --> 00:10:47,519 is this guy now he's a palladian walk-in 227 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:49,279 soul he had all these pictures of craft 228 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:52,640 that looked like billy myercraft 229 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:55,120 to be honest i thought they looked fake 230 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:55,839 but 231 00:11:00,470 --> 00:10:58,240 people at the class never ever 232 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:00,480 questioned him it became like a cult to 233 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:01,200 me 234 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,200 but the classes were great typical 235 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:05,680 metaphysic class metaphysics 236 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:06,959 meditation 237 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:12,470 really really good snacks 238 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:14,240 the best snacks people would bring their 239 00:11:18,069 --> 00:11:15,680 own snacks and it was great some people 240 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:18,079 brought really good stuff so eventually 241 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:19,440 when i noticed that people were not 242 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,480 questioning things i left 243 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:25,040 his name is isha i think sean david 244 00:11:28,710 --> 00:11:26,720 morton did a whole 245 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:28,720 story on him when he had his newsletter 246 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:31,360 so sean david morton um and then he went 247 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:33,600 this guy isha went on tour and changed 248 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:35,600 his name to 249 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:40,320 arkhan arkhan and then he did this tour 250 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:41,680 and then they fizzle out and never heard 251 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:43,839 from him again so i think it was like 15 252 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:46,000 bucks a person it was worth it was like 253 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,920 three hours and it was i really i think 254 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:49,440 that's the first time 255 00:11:54,550 --> 00:11:52,399 the theory that 256 00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:54,560 there are beings that 257 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:56,560 suck off or feed off of our 258 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,000 uh our negative energy that was the 259 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:00,320 first time that was in 260 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,920 right around 90 late 96 early 97. 261 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:06,000 let me get back to her slides 262 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:09,990 it's gonna go black again i don't know 263 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:12,399 what is why it does that oh it didn't do 264 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:14,480 it good 265 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:16,720 so she talks about 266 00:12:20,470 --> 00:12:18,560 experience or recall that indicates 267 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:20,480 concepts such as time travel parallel 268 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:23,519 universes the versatile versus versatile 269 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:25,680 versatility of soul consciousness and 270 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:27,200 evolution of the soul 271 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:29,440 and how recent scientific exploration of 272 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:31,040 reality and understanding of the 273 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:32,880 holographic universe may help us to 274 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:34,480 explore why consciousness 275 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:41,829 and she put up this uh this comic book 276 00:12:46,389 --> 00:12:44,399 mummy we are the aliens we are the 277 00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:46,399 aliens and that came from a girl at 278 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:48,399 eight years old 279 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:51,279 we actually may be the aliens you know 280 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:52,560 we may have come here from somewhere 281 00:12:58,389 --> 00:12:55,519 else i've heard that from people 282 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:58,399 pretty good people one person 283 00:13:01,269 --> 00:12:59,519 um 284 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:01,279 and the aliens say look i'd like to take 285 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:03,360 you in but you were very adamant about 286 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:05,519 not believing in aliens so kind of like 287 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:13,350 and how does contact with the non-human 288 00:13:17,509 --> 00:13:15,519 intelligence affect core beliefs and the 289 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:17,519 concept of god 290 00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:20,320 oh did moses did moses talk to aliens 291 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:22,000 you know 292 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:23,760 i know if i brought that up in my family 293 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:26,000 i would be looked at 294 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:27,760 not in a great way but if you talk to 295 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:29,279 experiencers or people who are 296 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:35,269 and she brought up john mack 297 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:36,639 i don't even remember her bringing up 298 00:13:40,949 --> 00:13:38,160 john mack if the whole day has been a 299 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:40,959 whirlwind a blur she goes uh the 300 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,800 abduction contact phenomenon challenges 301 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:44,560 the sacred barrier we have created 302 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:46,480 between the unseen and material world in 303 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:48,320 this culture there may be a small group 304 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:49,920 of scientific government 305 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:52,240 governmental religious corporate elite 306 00:13:58,470 --> 00:13:54,480 that determine the prevailing prevailing 307 00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:58,480 prevail prevailing bounds of reality 308 00:14:02,150 --> 00:14:00,079 people know their experiences and what 309 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:02,160 they have undergone does not fit the 310 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:04,160 with the prevailing mechanistic world 311 00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:11,590 and joe lewis said the god hypothesis 312 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:13,199 extraterrestrial life and its 313 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:14,560 implications for science and the 314 00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:15,519 religion 315 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:18,399 understanding that universe is 316 00:14:21,590 --> 00:14:20,079 holographic in nature all things in the 317 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:21,600 universe are connected at the quantum 318 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:23,120 level the god hypothesis is a 319 00:14:27,829 --> 00:14:25,360 re-examination of ancient doctrines 320 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:27,839 through modern scientific eyes 321 00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:29,360 and a lot of this stuff i'm not gonna 322 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:31,040 add to i don't have a lot of this stuff 323 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:32,800 in my wheelhouse 324 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:34,480 who are we 325 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:36,560 here's an eight-year-old i mean why are 326 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:39,519 we here why did god make us 327 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:41,120 these are the most important questions 328 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:42,480 for mankind 329 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:43,920 everything goes back to those two 330 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:46,560 questions questions and those alone so 331 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,399 this is an eight-year-old she worked 332 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:50,399 with i mean 333 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:52,160 eight years old talking like this even 334 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:55,600 if you think this is nonsense it's like 335 00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,959 how would an eight-year-old come up with 336 00:15:03,590 --> 00:14:58,560 that 337 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:05,829 so people who have contact ask you know 338 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:08,320 is my contact with et's real 339 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:09,600 what about extraterrestrials in the 340 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:12,639 bible angels or demons reincarnation the 341 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:14,720 journey of the soul cosmic intelligence 342 00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:18,480 universal source what is god 343 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:24,829 i 344 00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:33,120 who made god 345 00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:35,440 and he said 346 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:38,880 that is not a question you should ask 347 00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:44,870 let's see 348 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:46,399 there it is the black again i don't know 349 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:48,959 why it does that oh well 350 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:51,360 uh the watchers reverend barry downing 351 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:53,680 authored the bible on flying saucers i 352 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:55,279 believe it's time we explored the 353 00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:57,600 possibility that possibility that ufos 354 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:00,639 carry the angels of god 355 00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,279 as the bible says do not neglect to show 356 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:05,519 hospitality to aliens 357 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:07,519 for thereby for thereby some have 358 00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:10,240 entertained angels unawares what is that 359 00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:15,749 so 360 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:16,959 i don't know where that's coming from i 361 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:19,279 guess it's from the book but 362 00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:21,360 spiritualism and non-human intelligences 363 00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,639 this is what i was talking about earlier 364 00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:24,399 it's okay to see spirits and angels but 365 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:26,959 not bald head blue guys with big black 366 00:16:31,829 --> 00:16:28,800 eyes that comes from an experiencer 367 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:31,839 probably from a religious family 368 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:34,160 cosmic intelligence extraterrestrials 369 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,959 angels or demons the issue of spiritual 370 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,720 beliefs is one of the most personal how 371 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,959 do we interpret or understand our human 372 00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:42,720 spiritual journey if we look through the 373 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:45,279 lines of our spiritual and or religious 374 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:46,720 beliefs 375 00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:49,120 that's a really difficult one and 376 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:58,389 my sister was on my newsletter back in 377 00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:00,160 i had an open mind newsletter that dealt 378 00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:02,560 with all these subjects and 379 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,199 my sister who is very christian was part 380 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:07,679 of that and there was a discussion about 381 00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:10,240 i might have written it saying 382 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:12,319 some people think that jesus was art you 383 00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:15,360 know mary was artificially inseminated 384 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,240 um you know he was some saw he was maybe 385 00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:20,079 an extraterrestrial and then she wrote 386 00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:24,470 he goes how do you sleep at night i 387 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:27,919 think the devil has his hooks in you so 388 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,320 i think i wrote back i sleep very well 389 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:33,039 because that subject is brought up in 390 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,720 our community it was not you know it's 391 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,480 nothing that like people 392 00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:38,160 bat an eye at like yeah we've talked 393 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:40,000 about that but she's very religious you 394 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,440 know i don't know how she would handle 395 00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:43,120 it now probably differently because i've 396 00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:45,679 showed i've sent her some ufo stuff 397 00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:47,760 shows 398 00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:50,000 so 399 00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:03,350 religion is the mainstay of indian life 400 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:04,880 and he claims this guy claims to be a 401 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,440 young adult starseed i guess 402 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:09,120 his soul is seated from somewhere else 403 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:10,880 his name is sorev 404 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:13,520 convinced he's a starseed sorf explained 405 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,000 his understanding of himself 406 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,679 this has created many problems in 407 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:19,280 conflict because his understanding of 408 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:20,880 himself is so different to the beliefs 409 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:22,720 of his indian culture and the majority 410 00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:25,840 of his family and countrymen 411 00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:27,440 surah interpreted the gods as 412 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,669 and many people in india know nothing 413 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,440 about ufos extraterrestrials the 414 00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:36,960 consciousness of the people is very 415 00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:39,200 narrow the people are so much into their 416 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:44,470 another problem in india if any person 417 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:46,720 shows abilities like indigo children 418 00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:49,120 which would be you know psychic ability 419 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,480 telepathy 420 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:52,240 they end up being worshipped by the 421 00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:54,559 people however i'm not ready to disclose 422 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:56,799 myself i guess he has not told anybody 423 00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:57,840 he's had 424 00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:01,120 these abilities or you know memories 425 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:04,880 i must be ready with my answers when 426 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:07,120 when they ask him questions i have to be 427 00:19:14,669 --> 00:19:12,230 gods of mythology and religion 428 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:14,679 extraterrestrials 429 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:18,600 archaeological uh archaeological 430 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,799 anthropological evidence of visits by 431 00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:22,880 many extraterrestrial species throughout 432 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,039 millennia 433 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:27,039 she's saying we've had that non-human 434 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,880 intelligences gods experiencers of 435 00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:30,960 contact have interacted with them indian 436 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:33,039 god ganesha i don't know if i'm saying 437 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:35,280 that right and telephant from the 438 00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:38,960 pleiades uh that's jane an experiencer 439 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:40,960 telephone is 440 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:47,830 so that's a nine-year-old drawing immoke 441 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,240 who was her friend and when i was when i 442 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,160 was younger 443 00:20:03,510 --> 00:19:58,150 infinite center 444 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:05,669 i had a special friend called the robot 445 00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,000 i guess and in my baby book that was my 446 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,919 favorite phrase the robot made me do it 447 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,440 the robot told me so i don't know what 448 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:13,280 the hell that was but nine-year-old 449 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,320 kathy 450 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,840 her friend is amok 451 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,840 indian god krishna 452 00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,360 no the blue skin i guess some people 453 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,039 have seen blue skin 454 00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,000 non-human intelligences 455 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:26,480 more blue skin on that other picture 456 00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,559 and quetzalcoatl looks reptilian-like 457 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:33,039 and i believe she added something with 458 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,669 let's see 459 00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:42,630 there it is 460 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:44,789 so mary rodwell from australia 461 00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,320 researcher she said 462 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,039 she had heard from her clients positive 463 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,640 and negative stories 464 00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:55,520 about reptilians 465 00:21:02,470 --> 00:20:59,120 but some of them are loving 466 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:02,480 i don't want to see a reptilian ever 467 00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:13,750 then god said and now we will make human 468 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:16,400 beings they will be like us and resemble 469 00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:17,440 us 470 00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:23,280 and 471 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:24,720 i had a friend who was taking bible 472 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:29,350 i brought up that that you know that 473 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,559 part of the bible i said who are us dave 474 00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,240 who are us 475 00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,919 and i'm like and who's this you know it 476 00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:37,919 says the sons of god came down from 477 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:40,000 heaven and had sex with the daughters of 478 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:41,840 men that saw them they were fair and 479 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:43,840 wanted to have sex with them and he's 480 00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,120 like no it doesn't it doesn't say that 481 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:47,840 i'm like yeah it does it does um 482 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,080 and then i was out to dinner with his 483 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:52,320 girlfriend or wife and i said you know 484 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,200 what 485 00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:55,840 there's more evidence for the existence 486 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,640 of ufos physical ufos and there is for 487 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,960 the existence of jesus and i should not 488 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:03,200 have said that because his wife got 489 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,400 upset 490 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:05,919 but then my friend made it worse by 491 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:14,789 god said here we go 492 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:17,590 so these are just some pictures uh 493 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:20,960 that appear to be ufos in old 494 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:25,190 the back 495 00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:28,960 baptism of christ was from 1710 496 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:34,230 the far right was the enunciation of 497 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,039 saint 498 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,840 emidius from 1430 some of these yeah 499 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,200 they're really old and they look they 500 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,280 appear to be ufos and the arguments are 501 00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:43,200 no they're just comets they were they 502 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,400 were misinterpreted you're 503 00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:46,080 misinterpreting those pictures i mean 504 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,600 the one on the right the beam goes all 505 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:49,200 the way through the building all the way 506 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:51,200 down to the person kneeling it's pretty 507 00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,640 cool i don't know if it means anything 508 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:54,559 but you know they definitely do look 509 00:23:03,590 --> 00:22:57,280 like ufos some flying saucers but i 510 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,430 and this is another controversial thing 511 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:08,080 this person thinks uh master jesus is a 512 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,440 star being 513 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,200 and this is giorgio the messages that 514 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,120 giorgio received from the master jesus 515 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:14,960 contains simple but revolutionary 516 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:17,520 elements reincarnation life in the 517 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,159 universe the real essence of the church 518 00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,240 he bled and the master jesus showed him 519 00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:23,919 two crosses for humanity one that 520 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:27,039 redeems and one that punishes 521 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,720 for man to realize the existence of 522 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:30,799 extraterrestrial life in the cosmos but 523 00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:32,720 also a warning 524 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:35,280 a council a call to look for more for a 525 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,909 a call to unsustain unstained 526 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,000 a call regarding sustainability and 527 00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:48,559 social justice and she had something 528 00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,230 he was on a craft 529 00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,159 and the message was that the bigger 530 00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,320 bigger picture is the extraterrestrial 531 00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,080 hypothesis and then they told him that 532 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:03,039 jesus was a star being 533 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:06,080 um the message is is about you know the 534 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:07,360 message 535 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:08,240 from 536 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,679 the alleged et's is that 537 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,080 we need to look after each other look 538 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,520 after each other 539 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:17,760 uh and love each other and she made the 540 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,559 cut she made the comparison it's like 541 00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:22,480 same story as 542 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,710 and 543 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,950 she told a funny story which i can 544 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:34,159 echo 545 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,320 she said she met 546 00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,400 a jehovah witness two of them showed up 547 00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,159 at her door 548 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:42,000 and so she decided to have a little fun 549 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,760 and said well you know i've met with 550 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:45,200 et's 551 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,960 where i've worked with people who claim 552 00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,720 to have met with extraterrestrials and 553 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:50,960 she said one of the jehovah witnesses 554 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,000 said 555 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,919 i've had experience too 556 00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:55,840 and they're demons 557 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,919 and um she went on and debated them for 558 00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,440 an hour i had that happen to me they 559 00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:01,360 showed up at my door 560 00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:02,799 they wanted to talk to me i think it 561 00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,919 might have been one person and 562 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,279 we talked about they talked about the 563 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,039 bible and i just said i just don't 564 00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,720 consider that you know 565 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,799 the word of god and 566 00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:14,640 that basically ended the conversation so 567 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,919 they said it was like a two-minute 568 00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,840 conversation she was like all right nice 569 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,279 talking to you have a nice day i'm mike 570 00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,190 it's all in the interpretation and 571 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:25,679 perspective 572 00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,080 my interaction with a jehovah's witness 573 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,279 angels or demon that was her story 574 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,440 and then she brings up monsignor corrado 575 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:35,039 balducci 576 00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,960 he is my 77th cousin from rome 577 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,120 he's not um 578 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:43,440 he said extraterrestrial contact and he 579 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,159 had 580 00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,320 he was a i don't know how high up in in 581 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,400 the vatican he was but he was he was 582 00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:50,960 there he was on an art belt all the time 583 00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,640 back in the day 584 00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:54,159 extraterrestrial contact is a real 585 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:56,559 phenomenon and consistent with catholic 586 00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,440 church's understanding of theology 587 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,279 he emphasized extraterrestrial 588 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,320 encounters were not demonic 589 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,080 so 590 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,080 it was nice having him around he is no 591 00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:13,750 in the religious and spiritual dogma she 592 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,200 had two cases she worked with in 593 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,960 australia 594 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,880 both parents had 595 00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,799 uh parents of the experiences were 596 00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,000 deeply 597 00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,320 religious and christians the 15 year 15 598 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,000 year 15 year old wrote about her 599 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,080 feelings of frustration and sadness as 600 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:30,480 she was aware of her star heritage 601 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:32,080 meaning that she came from somewhere 602 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:34,720 else her soul and desperately wanted to 603 00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,710 yeah bug it's all right i mean you can 604 00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,799 see it later and i'm going through the 605 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:45,279 part which i'm not comfortable as as 606 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,679 comfortable i mean this stuff 607 00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:49,360 not the stuff i focus on i've heard some 608 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,279 of it before but it's like i said it's 609 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,760 outside in my wheelhouse so 15 year old 610 00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:56,640 wrote she did not want to share that she 611 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:01,909 star child star heritage with her family 612 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:04,720 she didn't feel safe to do so a young 613 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,480 adult wrote her 614 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,159 to tell her of her own awareness that 615 00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,000 she was a starseed and again and 616 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,679 basically a starseed is the soul is 617 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,159 coming you know incarnating here 618 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,320 usually to try to help us in our 619 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,559 wonderful not so wonderful condition on 620 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,480 this planet 621 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:22,240 uh this person felt that 622 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,080 their deeply religious parents it would 623 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,080 devastate him if they told them and this 624 00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:28,000 person contemplated suicide so that's 625 00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:29,200 you know 626 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:36,549 hello julie hello bug and everybody else 627 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,320 dogma versus human awareness and 628 00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,240 experience however i was born with a 629 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,240 previous life memory and because i was 630 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,320 born into a devout christian family i 631 00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:46,640 quickly learned to justify that memory 632 00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,279 in any way possible that didn't include 633 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,520 reincarnation 634 00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,600 jeff schulte australia he comes up a 635 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,360 coup a couple of times 636 00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,840 i did have a conversation 637 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:00,000 i had a conversation with my cousin 638 00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:01,600 i really don't i'd rather not oh i can 639 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:03,279 always do that that way 640 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:04,320 had a 641 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:09,120 everybody and everybody 99 of my family 642 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,799 is christian so i had a conversation 643 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,880 with my cousin and i said you know 644 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,559 reincarnation it was originally in the 645 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,080 bible you know i didn't really have my 646 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:18,159 research down back then i think it was 647 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,440 but it might not have been but she's 648 00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:20,720 like i don't believe that i'm like yeah 649 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,159 the council and i see 650 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,320 you know 30 a.d 651 00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:26,080 you know they took out a lot of books 652 00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,840 they edited the bible before it was put 653 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,360 into the form you see now she's like i 654 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,880 don't believe that i don't believe that 655 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:32,480 i'm like all right 656 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,710 my grandfather who lived to be 92 657 00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,720 i said grandpa i said do you do you 658 00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:42,880 believe in reincarnation 659 00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,559 he said i'll know when i get there 660 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:48,640 which i loved 661 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,760 great answer grandpa 662 00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:53,200 pasquale espanola that was my 663 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,799 grandfather he actually had a book 664 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,799 published one barbara's story from 665 00:29:07,350 --> 00:28:59,520 sicily to america 666 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,549 time travel and reincarnation 667 00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,480 it's funny i did talk about some of the 668 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,080 things i've heard behind the scenes and 669 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,200 yes one person mentioned time travel 670 00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,640 agencies 671 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:21,039 and reincarnation and the whole 672 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:22,799 light is a trick and i've heard that 673 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:29,750 quote this is from a seven-year-old 674 00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:32,159 i am a time traveler from the future my 675 00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,679 real form is not the body i inhabit now 676 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,440 i don't think i learned the word inhabit 677 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:39,520 until i was 18. 678 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,320 i am genderless in that form my alien 679 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:44,240 form is really 680 00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,480 us from the future 681 00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,799 they are us we are them 682 00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:50,880 who the hell seven years old it's just 683 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,600 amazing like i said even if you even if 684 00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,440 you're not open-minded to this stuff to 685 00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,600 see that you have to at least 686 00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,039 question where these kids are getting 687 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,549 here's an artist artist experiencer my 688 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,640 contact with a non-human cosmic race of 689 00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,240 beings has occurred since before i was 690 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,559 born these beings are my family before i 691 00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,559 came to the earth domain and i had a 692 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:15,039 close relationship with them which was 693 00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:21,110 and i'm not sure if this is the same 694 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:23,120 person 695 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,240 no this is a um 696 00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,799 there's 10 years old i believe 697 00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:30,159 ivan 698 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:32,559 this is my first earth life the kid says 699 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,200 he remembers his previous body as an e.t 700 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,360 he identifies as a center seed and says 701 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,360 he connects directly to the core center 702 00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,520 of the planet he is on which is not 703 00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:43,279 earth so i guess he's in two places at 704 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,269 his last life was in a blue body 705 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,760 is 10 years old he works with other 706 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,600 beings who together created this 707 00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:54,880 dimension 708 00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:57,919 10 years old and then he drew 709 00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:59,120 one type of 710 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,240 centric seed being 711 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,080 and he pointed out on the right how the 712 00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,720 top part that's me 713 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,120 i can't read that 714 00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:11,760 it's a little blurry 715 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,360 so you know 716 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,159 pretty amazing for a 10 year old 717 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,320 i don't know what it means and then 718 00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:20,559 hypnosis hypnosis connecting to inner 719 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,519 wisdom super conscious 720 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,880 michael newton you know how many times i 721 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,640 picked up that book in the bookstore and 722 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:28,240 read it in the bookstore but i never i 723 00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:30,080 never picked it up for whatever reason i 724 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,279 read i read other books about 725 00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:34,320 reincarnation and life between life 726 00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:35,840 that book deals with the recall of past 727 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:38,000 lives on earth including not being in 728 00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,480 human form i did not know that recall 729 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:42,240 missing time episode hidden memories 730 00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,200 recall of life as spirit 731 00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,039 uh recall i guess this is all these 732 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,799 people that she has worked with recall 733 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,640 of lives on other planets and dimensions 734 00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:53,200 recall as being creator beings moving 735 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,559 planets 736 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,240 that would be a lot of responsibility to 737 00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,799 move a planet 738 00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,120 and she mentions this one person who had 739 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,519 recall of a medieval life and in that 740 00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:05,600 life she was a healer 741 00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,559 and then who showed her how to use herbs 742 00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,760 to heal and 743 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,000 the person she claims showed her and 744 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,240 this is allegedly from a medieval past 745 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,240 life 746 00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,880 hypnosis so and there's the being on the 747 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,880 right so that's the being who supposedly 748 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,720 showed her you know 749 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,960 how to use herbs to heal so if that's 750 00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,880 accurate and it happened in the 751 00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:28,799 medieval times the point is you know 752 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,470 talking about an out-of-body experience 753 00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:36,320 uh my head started to feel funny and 754 00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:38,320 then i vibrated and my soul went up 755 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:40,080 through the head and i can go anywhere 756 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,950 another one i actually visited the large 757 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,960 ship with many other souls there were a 758 00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,880 huge variety of beings they were playful 759 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,720 and incredibly wise and were able to 760 00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:57,360 shift their form at will from a humanoid 761 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,000 shape to a ribbon of light as i saw them 762 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,720 they seem to be composed of everlasting 763 00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,960 ever ever vested bubbles of energy i 764 00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:06,399 don't know how old josh is that's not 765 00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,799 the same kid right john and josh 766 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,559 and for people just joining i'm going 767 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:14,960 through mary rodwell's lecture i i 768 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:18,320 captured i think 99 of her slides i 769 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,190 uh 15 year old why me oh i volunteered 770 00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:28,000 to come back i chose this i've been here 771 00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:30,880 27 times before 772 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:39,830 15 year old 15 year old uh uk 773 00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:40,799 kid 774 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,360 talks about balls of light 775 00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:45,360 and on the right he talks about and 776 00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:47,440 just for the record i'm reading what she 777 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:49,519 what she wrote i don't know if there's 778 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,840 any of this 779 00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,360 i do think there's something at least 780 00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:55,039 evidence that points in that direction 781 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,840 but 782 00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,679 as far as 783 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,000 the details i don't know i mean i'm just 784 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,640 i'm sharing what she said 785 00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:04,640 a little beyond my wheelhouse as i said 786 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:06,159 but 787 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,560 a lot of people find this interesting so 788 00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,159 the kid was saying the great beings 789 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,639 arrived when i was in my garden i can 790 00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,280 see orbs white and gold and two smaller 791 00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,960 ones they're here to make me feel warm 792 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,280 they are family 793 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,800 the big one and 794 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,480 when you when you read robert monroe's 795 00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,320 books out of body experiences he talks 796 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:25,839 about 797 00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,760 re 798 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,760 meeting people who felt like family to 799 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:31,760 him friends he just like when he met 800 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,560 them right away he knew them reuniting 801 00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:36,399 with friends i don't know about family 802 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,599 but friends 803 00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,839 i can see orbs white and gold 804 00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,839 we're family the big one is great nana 805 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,000 and the other nana's dad grandfather and 806 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:45,679 granddad's brother they're here to make 807 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,960 me feel comfortable to reassure me 808 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,480 i guess this is 809 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:52,320 i'm not sure how this is happening if 810 00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,560 it's just a full recall 811 00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:56,399 she asked him how he knew what the orbs 812 00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,119 of light were and john said he just knew 813 00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,599 this kid's 15. i asked john why they are 814 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,839 here with him he replied they had come 815 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,760 with the grays to support him to make 816 00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,599 him feel comfortable so he wouldn't be 817 00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:10,320 frightened john then said said that when 818 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,839 the greys left 819 00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,680 with the orbs of light they went on to 820 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:15,680 the spacecraft too and john says they do 821 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,560 not mean to frighten us 822 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,320 here you go soul trans transfer from a 823 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:22,240 human body to a non-human body the other 824 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,440 way around 825 00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:25,680 paul 8 years old 826 00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:27,599 this is a good one especially if you're 827 00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,670 eight years old kid saying the mantids 828 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,079 are my ancestors 829 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,760 on the craft 830 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,839 there is a mantid body to go into i 831 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:41,760 leave my physical body and evaporate 832 00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,400 from my physical form into the mantid 833 00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:46,480 it's a bit like steam that's how it 834 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:48,560 happens i will go back to being a mantis 835 00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:49,760 when i die 836 00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,680 and the free survey which was i think 4 837 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,280 200 people 838 00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:55,680 15 of the experiencers 839 00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:59,520 experienced soul swapping with the human 840 00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:00,640 which is 841 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:02,960 15 i mean what is that 842 00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,240 so 600 people 843 00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,920 i did not know that i did not know that 844 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:09,599 many people had that type of experience 845 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,320 or memory 846 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,760 uh this kid said he came through a 847 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:15,280 portal in the sun 848 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,640 many of the children born these days 849 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,480 have memories intact from their previous 850 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,160 existence on board craft as 851 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,160 extraterrestrials and if you want to 852 00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,160 just start with children as i said 853 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,480 earlier children who remember past lives 854 00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:29,520 ian stevenson um 855 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:31,839 i forget his name already um 856 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:34,720 but the if you search on google 857 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,040 tom schroeder 858 00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:39,200 washington post magazine i think it was 859 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,599 99 maybe it was on reincarnation 860 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,599 following even ian stevenson around on 861 00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,240 his investigations really great article 862 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,079 i was like oh this is great it's in the 863 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,839 washington post 864 00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:51,760 jim tucker is the other one who does the 865 00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,079 university of virginia work once ian 866 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,920 stevenson died and then leslie kane of 867 00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,000 car of course but now this is beyond 868 00:37:00,950 --> 00:37:00,000 just reincarnation this is beyond this 869 00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,960 is 870 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,320 memories 871 00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:05,280 reincarnation related to other beings 872 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,560 many of the children born these days 873 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:08,240 have memories of their previous 874 00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,760 existence on board or craft as 875 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,359 extraterrestrials 876 00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,960 they are kept on track by continuing 877 00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,400 their interaction with their cosmic 878 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,400 family while while they are in human 879 00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,040 form that's tracy taylor and it mentions 880 00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,920 the free survey again 96 percent of the 881 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:23,599 folks said 882 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,359 et's travel to and from other dimensions 883 00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,800 and 884 00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,480 once again eric davis believes that 885 00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,839 they're coming they're using other 886 00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:33,599 dimensions whether these beings are 887 00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:36,240 extraterrestrial or not they're coming 888 00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,440 from somewhere using uh other dimensions 889 00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:41,520 and that's a picture of the sun 890 00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,280 which she says which appears to be a 891 00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,079 huge spacecraft on its corona i have no 892 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,320 idea what that is it doesn't look like a 893 00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,800 spacecraft to me but 894 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,400 i i probably have seen that picture 895 00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,320 before but it's just it's just nothing 896 00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,480 to me it's not anything you can use for 897 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:01,190 so 898 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:03,280 kaza 899 00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:05,599 she had multiple after multiple ndes 900 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,079 near-death experiences 901 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:11,040 on the fourth pregnancy 902 00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,280 she's a new soul from the 13th dimension 903 00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,520 i'm only good with five dimensions once 904 00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:19,839 you give up five i'm i'm uncomfortable 905 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,599 i'm kidding but thirteenth dimension um 906 00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,680 casa stated it's a place full of 907 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,200 compassion 908 00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,040 13th dimension in that dimension i am 909 00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:30,960 just a light form we are like a block of 910 00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,320 energy and can turn into any form 911 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,079 robert moreau's books if you ever get a 912 00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:37,760 chance journeys out of the body far 913 00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,400 journeys and ultimate journey 914 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,839 deals with that kind of stuff i mean he 915 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,160 doesn't talk about dimensions but other 916 00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:45,760 locales 917 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:48,000 i loved those books that was early on 918 00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:50,800 when i first after i dove into 919 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:52,640 whitley's books then eventually you'll 920 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,000 see you get into the other books and 921 00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:55,839 robert monroe's books 922 00:39:02,390 --> 00:38:58,720 was it was after i read my first astral 923 00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,400 projection book by ophiel 924 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,079 uh former priest uh in the christian 925 00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,160 ministry jeff schulte in australia he's 926 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,839 like i've started having conscious and 927 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:09,599 very real contact experience with beings 928 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,320 who let me say we're not of this world i 929 00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:14,640 started to think i was losing my mind 930 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,720 my superiors were useless because all 931 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,480 they knew was what they were told to 932 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,720 believe and teach 933 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,079 i have come to realize that i have been 934 00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:24,240 an experiencer all this incarnation and 935 00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,760 probably many of my previous 936 00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,680 incarnations already with these few 937 00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,839 words most christians reading this will 938 00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:31,839 recoil with this 939 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,680 reincarnation 940 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,599 well following the intense increase in 941 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,599 my off-world visitor experiences i began 942 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,480 to get epiphany with after epiphany 943 00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:44,320 if i took around three years to it took 944 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:46,480 around three years to resolve itself 945 00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,960 i'll probably never know but when it did 946 00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,960 it was like the scales fell from my eyes 947 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,960 and everything made perfect sense to me 948 00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:54,720 that's jeff schulte chapter 18 of his 949 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:03,670 julie gets my jokes everybody 950 00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:06,240 they're subtle but you get them 951 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,599 i'm sorry i can't go through all these 952 00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:09,599 messages but 953 00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,319 thank you for commenting 954 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,400 this is going to be a while because it's 955 00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,000 like i think it's like 60 slides i'm 956 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,920 trying to go fast i don't want to just 957 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,760 blow it off 958 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:21,359 buddhism oh we might be getting close if 959 00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,280 we receive if we receive visitors from 960 00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:24,560 other galaxies 961 00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:26,160 this is the dalai lama 962 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:27,599 if we receive visitors from other 963 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,440 galaxies it's the same as a human being 964 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:33,839 they may be a little different 965 00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:37,119 shapes but basically they are the same 966 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:39,200 furthermore a sentient being 967 00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,040 they're sentient beings so respect them 968 00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,960 if we place too much emphasis on 969 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,319 strangeness 970 00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,800 that creates more anxiety and fear so in 971 00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:48,560 other words if you do see a reptilian 972 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:51,119 and manted man said do not whatever you 973 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,400 do do not stare at them look away don't 974 00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,680 make them feel 975 00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,680 self-conscious especially the mantis 976 00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:59,200 they are really self-conscious about 977 00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:00,240 their eyes 978 00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,670 oh i brought this up but it's like the 979 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:07,359 whole greer thing that they're going to 980 00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,670 for 981 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,520 getting weapons into space and building 982 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:17,280 up the military budget i just put that 983 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,720 in there and she went into more of that 984 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,880 and i kind of it's not my thing i'm 985 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:24,870 and then clifford stone another person 986 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:27,280 who i've really 987 00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,880 not heard things about as far as his 988 00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,160 credibility but i'll put it in there 989 00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,079 he's and he'll do people's i think 990 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,400 richard doty said he liked clifford you 991 00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,560 know he was very sweet man but he saw 992 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,560 things differently than i did i never 993 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,160 learned anything that he claimed to have 994 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,480 learned with his sources but that's you 995 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:44,160 know that's how it is he never said he 996 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:46,000 was not telling the truth he never said 997 00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,990 so chris clifford stone shared that he 998 00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:57,599 interfaced with some non-human 999 00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,440 intelligences and had been part of a 1000 00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,000 retrieval program of uaps called 1001 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,720 interplanetary phenomena research unit 1002 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,960 in 1943 1003 00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,880 and is still it's still operational i 1004 00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:11,280 think he's dead now um but that program 1005 00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,880 is still operational he said he has seen 1006 00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:14,640 living in dead net non-human 1007 00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,520 intelligences in 1987 he sold 1008 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,319 said the military knew of 57 species of 1009 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,560 non-human intelligences 1010 00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,640 uh some of them looked like like look 1011 00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,400 some of them looked like us what they 1012 00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,800 didn't have was hate or hostility if 1013 00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:30,560 they were hostile they could have been 1014 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,160 destroyed they could have destroyed us 1015 00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,920 long ago of course 1016 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,000 i hate that argument maybe not hostile 1017 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,680 but they could use us for selfish 1018 00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:39,520 reasons because 1019 00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:41,359 we're a lower life form and we do it to 1020 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,640 other lower life life forms too do i 1021 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:46,480 believe in god yes and they believe in 1022 00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,359 god too but our definition of divinity 1023 00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,440 is probably in conflict with theirs they 1024 00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:54,000 could probably wipe out many religions 1025 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:55,839 if they attempted to better define the 1026 00:43:02,069 --> 00:42:59,280 concept of god 1027 00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,079 and then she mentioned corso 1028 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,920 saying you know he was allegedly talking 1029 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:05,760 to this alien and the alien 1030 00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,000 telepathically said corso said to the 1031 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,630 i'll just read it corso states he and 1032 00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:14,400 the alien had an exchange he indicated 1033 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,160 that no words and i don't know if this 1034 00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:17,680 is part of the course of book that is 1035 00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,000 considered credible i know 1036 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,319 his journal is but this this i'm not 1037 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,319 sure if this is part of his journal i 1038 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,800 will find out though crucial states he 1039 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,800 and the alien had an exchange he 1040 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,720 indicated that no words were spoken but 1041 00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,720 rather information was transferred 1042 00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,480 mentally 1043 00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:37,040 the alien then said he wanted to leave 1044 00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,880 but was concerned about the rate leave 1045 00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,880 the planet in his craft i guess but was 1046 00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:42,240 concerned about 1047 00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,960 the radar interference the alien asked 1048 00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,119 corso to order the radars covering white 1049 00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,280 sands missile range to be shut down for 1050 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,640 a brief period 1051 00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:53,440 corso asked the alien 1052 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,160 what he would give him if he complied 1053 00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,240 and the alien's reported 1054 00:44:01,750 --> 00:44:00,880 response was a new world if you can take 1055 00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:01,760 it 1056 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,240 and corso told that story frequently and 1057 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,560 he often contemplated what the alien 1058 00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:07,920 meant by that statement but was never 1059 00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,839 quite sure he understood 1060 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,359 but whitley schreiber talks about that a 1061 00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,960 lot i think his new book his latest book 1062 00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:15,119 before the jesus book is called a new 1063 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,480 world 1064 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:18,000 the original manuscript included 1065 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,000 drawings oh i did not know that see and 1066 00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,800 i have one of the 1067 00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,160 i don't have the manuscript i know it's 1068 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,640 online um i have it saved somewhere but 1069 00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:28,000 the original manuscript included 1070 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:29,680 drawings of the alien that corso made 1071 00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:37,190 let me see i'm gonna go back to me 1072 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,750 all right we have 12 slides left 1073 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,430 back to 1074 00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,440 mary rodwell 1075 00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,440 reverend michael j carter michael is an 1076 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:02,560 ordained interface interfaith minister 1077 00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,470 of evolution because of our previous 1078 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:12,079 lives and we are bringing and we bring 1079 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,440 our gifts 1080 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,760 gifts our baggage and our lessons with 1081 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,880 us from lifetime to lifetime my star 1082 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:20,880 visitors showed me other lifetimes that 1083 00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:23,440 i had as well some of us are young souls 1084 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,520 some are baby souls some are mature and 1085 00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,920 some are old souls we are all doing the 1086 00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,000 best we can on the journey my contacts 1087 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,319 have have taught me compassion and 1088 00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:34,720 empathy at least much more than i had 1089 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,589 and this is jeff schulte who was 40 1090 00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,520 years in the christian ministry as best 1091 00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:45,520 as i understand it it's their task to 1092 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,599 prepare souls for their next round of 1093 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,480 incarnations for example currently i am 1094 00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,440 incarnating as a human on planet earth i 1095 00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,200 don't know how many countless times i 1096 00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,760 have done this nor how many times ahead 1097 00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:59,760 but at some stage it will change and my 1098 00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,240 mission may be even in another dimension 1099 00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,560 or galaxy or universe 1100 00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,119 so the reprogrammers set the stage as it 1101 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:09,599 were and prepare you for your mission oh 1102 00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:12,400 they looked sparkling shimmering 1103 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:13,599 humanoid 1104 00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,520 and that's from my encounter with light 1105 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,920 beings called the reprogrammers and then 1106 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,760 at the end he says i've only encountered 1107 00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:22,319 them that one time that i can recall and 1108 00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:25,119 so far i have not had any confirmation 1109 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,119 from any source any other source 1110 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:30,720 transcending fear victims or 1111 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,599 co-participants in our own revolution 1112 00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,280 basically at the start i misunderstood 1113 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:37,520 the grace the knowing e.t part of me 1114 00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:39,760 initially made a decision to assist them 1115 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,839 and understanding of this can be 1116 00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:43,680 overshadowed shadowed by fear which 1117 00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,160 stems from our limited human perceptions 1118 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:48,560 and reactions to these experiences 1119 00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,790 and then she talks about simon harvey 1120 00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,800 wilson in conjunction with acer and 1121 00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:58,160 that's a group she belongs to i have to 1122 00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,599 look that up um she said it in the 1123 00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,000 beginning i didn't grab it uh shamanism 1124 00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,920 and alien abductions western australia 1125 00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,040 um 1126 00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:07,040 comparative study it was noted many 1127 00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,240 perilous 1128 00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,640 parallels between 1129 00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,599 shamanism and abductions i have a like 1130 00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,520 one of the best books on shamanism i've 1131 00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,000 only read some of it michael 1132 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,000 varner i think it's called 1133 00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,480 the way of the shaman i believe 1134 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,559 really popular book uh 1135 00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,880 the comparisons you're trans fan 1136 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:28,880 transcending human fears shift in 1137 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,910 maurice research has demonstrated how 1138 00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:37,520 this connects to the explanation of 1139 00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,920 human consciousness in the surveys by dr 1140 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,240 edgar mitchell's free foundation beyond 1141 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:44,720 ufos the science of consciousness and 1142 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:51,109 outcomes of contact with non-human 1143 00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,400 intelligences the survey of 4 200 people 1144 00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,640 in free 1145 00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,559 eighty percent of them experienced a 1146 00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,440 psycho spiritual transformation 1147 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,079 78 believe that their ufo contact 1148 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,640 experience is part of an evolutionary 1149 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,760 unfolding of humanity 66 believe they 1150 00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,520 are more spiritual after their contact 1151 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:14,400 38 believe non-human intelligences are 1152 00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,520 modern angels and 72 believe that their 1153 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:19,920 contact was to awaken them to larger 1154 00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:26,309 reverend carter here he is again i have 1155 00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,640 to say that since my contact experiences 1156 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,640 i have discovered that anything is 1157 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,640 possible and that love is the glue that 1158 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,640 holds the cosmos together i have 1159 00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,559 discovered that when i change the way i 1160 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,240 look at things 1161 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,960 the things i look at begin to change 1162 00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,880 now i realize that when i find peace 1163 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:44,960 everything falls into place we can call 1164 00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:47,680 the source of wisdom god or whatever you 1165 00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,319 choose to call it 1166 00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,880 the older bigger aliens told him 1167 00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,200 god is not what people think 1168 00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,280 this is a nine-year-old 1169 00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,839 they showed him a fort a vortex type 1170 00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:01,920 black hole but it isn't a black hole 1171 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:04,960 it's a violet light that creates 1172 00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,640 and that's john who's nine years old 1173 00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,319 and the older bigger aliens told him 1174 00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,440 that that's what he said 1175 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,200 jeff solte retired after 40 years in the 1176 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:17,440 christian ministry god is not a being 1177 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:18,960 but rather god is the spirit or 1178 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:21,440 energetic full energetic force that we 1179 00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:24,720 may call unconditional love 1180 00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,079 in other words my dog 1181 00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,240 those that believe they have the mandate 1182 00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:32,400 on truth and knowledge are shipwrecked 1183 00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,880 by the laughter of the gods 1184 00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,440 that goes for our 1185 00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:39,280 subjects too 1186 00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:43,359 we do not know the truth nobody does 1187 00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,400 we're almost there 1188 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:45,599 and then we can get to some of the other 1189 00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:46,720 lectures 1190 00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,599 how long oh man we've been going for 1191 00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,440 um let's see how long 1192 00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,440 48 minutes on this 1193 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:54,960 how do we transition into this new 1194 00:50:07,829 --> 00:49:57,520 awareness of our cosmic self 1195 00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:10,150 trust the inner resonance it's our truth 1196 00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,359 your inner resonance your 1197 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,440 what is it your intuition 1198 00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:17,040 trust that our soul knows where it's 1199 00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,079 going 1200 00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,160 quote come to the edge she said 1201 00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,559 they said we are afraid come to the edge 1202 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,280 she said they came she pushed them and 1203 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,640 they flew 1204 00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,720 gilliam appalling the air so in other 1205 00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,040 words 1206 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,960 basically when we're 1207 00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:35,520 under pressure 1208 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,720 that's when we evolve the most in 1209 00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:40,480 i don't know pressure's the right words 1210 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:46,230 i can only i can only come to the 1211 00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:47,280 conclusion that we are becoming 1212 00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,480 conscious 1213 00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,720 co-participants in our own evolution and 1214 00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:52,880 with that in mind they had better give 1215 00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:55,280 us a brochure meaning whoever's visiting 1216 00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,079 us 1217 00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,160 which i guess is what they're doing 1218 00:51:02,309 --> 00:50:59,839 are they doing it is that what contact 1219 00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,319 is all about 1220 00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,960 um a cern support and transition they 1221 00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,400 support those in transition to 1222 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,240 acknowledging this reality within 1223 00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,720 themselves to a place of healing and 1224 00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,480 integration 1225 00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,119 i think that is it for that 1226 00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,000 mary rodwell 1227 00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:20,160 slideshow 1228 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:21,280 and 1229 00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,520 i need to i'm gonna go through one thing 1230 00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,040 here 1231 00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,520 i lost viewers but 1232 00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,200 i didn't want to just pick and choose on 1233 00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:30,800 that and just 1234 00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:34,079 what's her name barbara lamb she had 1235 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:35,760 this book 1236 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,880 she was talking about to help children 1237 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,160 i'm putting that up because that's the 1238 00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,839 last slide and then i'll just get to my 1239 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:42,880 notes 1240 00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:49,349 on my and whatever well i'm trying to 1241 00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:51,520 think what other notes 1242 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:52,640 she had 1243 00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:54,400 and not barbara 1244 00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:57,200 i need to switch for one second 1245 00:52:04,790 --> 00:51:58,559 give me one second i just need to plug 1246 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:14,710 monitor i don't need i do need power 1247 00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:18,549 all right i'm sorry 1248 00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,349 i think that's it 1249 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,960 keep on doing what you're doing whatever 1250 00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:37,440 resonates with your truth 1251 00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:40,559 and that was the last thing she said 1252 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:42,000 and now we're going to get the barber 1253 00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:42,880 lamb 1254 00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:45,280 a little less controversial but 1255 00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:51,349 and 1256 00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:54,800 so she started out as a therapist doing 1257 00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,990 that is cookie 1258 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,400 he wanted to hear barbara lamb so he 1259 00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:08,960 came down 1260 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:12,640 1991 1919 1261 00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:21,510 1991 1999 1991 was her first experience 1262 00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,640 or client 1263 00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:25,280 who was referred to her by her mother 1264 00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:27,680 the the client was very traumatized a 1265 00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:29,520 very trauma side a traumatized young 1266 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,829 cookie's running crazy 1267 00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,440 a very traumatized young woman she had 1268 00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,119 dropped out of college in her part-time 1269 00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,599 job and insisted on sleeping between her 1270 00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,520 mom and dad in the bed 1271 00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:45,680 she was so you know so traumatized by 1272 00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,990 they got fed up with that and they sent 1273 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,440 her back to her bed 1274 00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:52,960 and this woman said this woman is an 1275 00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,079 adult so 1276 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:55,680 she was terrified because she felt they 1277 00:54:02,470 --> 00:53:58,880 might come again the visitors so barbara 1278 00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:02,480 lamb started regressions six regressions 1279 00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,920 and there were six different et 1280 00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:06,000 encounters different type of being every 1281 00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:17,270 this woman had 1282 00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,599 a very bad ear infection 1283 00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:21,119 and while she was sleeping she said 1284 00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:22,839 these tall beings came 1285 00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,589 and now she's not 1286 00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,510 um 1287 00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:37,119 so she had a really bad ear infection 1288 00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,240 and while she was sleeping the tall 1289 00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:40,480 beans came in rolled her onto her side 1290 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,079 and they worked on her ear she woke up 1291 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,240 the infection was gone and attribute she 1292 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:46,240 attributed to those three attributed it 1293 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:48,240 to those three beings in a room one day 1294 00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,599 she was driving with her sister in the 1295 00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,079 late afternoon noticed a blue light beam 1296 00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:54,160 coming in through the car motors started 1297 00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:56,000 to die and we've all heard those stories 1298 00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:57,680 you know where the craft 1299 00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:59,839 somehow the engine dies 1300 00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,359 they pulled over and got out there was a 1301 00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,799 field there 1302 00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:04,400 they ran across the field and the blue 1303 00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:07,440 beam of light followed followed followed 1304 00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,920 and hit her in the back 1305 00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,000 where she had quite a lot of pain for at 1306 00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:14,799 least a year but it felt good uh the 1307 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,640 back felt great afterwards beam of light 1308 00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:18,000 had left 1309 00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,000 she said she was healed twice during six 1310 00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:22,880 weeks of sessions with barbara 1311 00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,799 seven sessions she came in smiling and 1312 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:27,200 relaxed it's like a 180. she said she 1313 00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,960 felt very privileged and honored that 1314 00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,720 these beings had chosen to work with her 1315 00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,559 and even though she found out that she 1316 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,880 had a hybrid child with them 1317 00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,480 she still moved away you know that 1318 00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,000 didn't bother her and she moved away 1319 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,079 from her parents to a little cottage in 1320 00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:42,880 town with her boyfriend 1321 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,520 and barbara lamb says you're 1322 00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:47,200 you're probably likely to have more 1323 00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:48,799 experiences in the women's life that's 1324 00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:51,200 fine we know it's okay 1325 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,799 so she was evolving from being 1326 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,160 traumatized to feeling happy and 1327 00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,920 grateful 1328 00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,319 the leading experiencer support group 1329 00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,880 since 1995 1330 00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,480 that's when she started she has been 1331 00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,160 leading experience a support group since 1332 00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,720 95 the first one she had 1333 00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,480 50 people showed up at the first one it 1334 00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,799 was at the ufo congress i believe 1335 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:12,720 she has spoken to more than 2 000 1336 00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,799 experiencers and more than 4 000 1337 00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,640 regressions have been done some 1338 00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:18,160 individuals have had 1339 00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,400 10 20 30 regressions one person had 60. 1340 00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,240 et visits usually begin in the childhood 1341 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:26,720 the adults don't remember them 1342 00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,760 even newborn if infants she says they 1343 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,440 come into the room where the infant is 1344 00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,280 in the hospital they switch off the nerf 1345 00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:35,359 nurses and doctors take the infant out 1346 00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:38,079 for an hour for an hour and so or so 1347 00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:39,760 bring them back and nobody realizes they 1348 00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:40,880 were gone i guess because they were 1349 00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:48,230 uh i wasn't going to say this but she 1350 00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,079 even said one male client was visited 1351 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:52,160 while he was in the womb 1352 00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,680 felt the heat he remembered feeling the 1353 00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,760 heat while he was in his mom's stomach 1354 00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:57,200 but this is kind of interesting you may 1355 00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,640 say that's ridiculous um 1356 00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,240 but he felt heat coming and he got this 1357 00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,599 message saying i'm a visitor from 1358 00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,920 another place and i am here to help you 1359 00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,920 you have a congenital hole in your heart 1360 00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,440 and i'm here and this is why he's in the 1361 00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:11,359 womb this being is allegedly saying this 1362 00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:13,200 to him you have a congenital hole in 1363 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,480 your heart and i'm here to help you by 1364 00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,240 putting an invisible electromagnetic 1365 00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:18,319 strip over the hole if i don't do this 1366 00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,760 you're going to die soon after birth 1367 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,920 so it was 10 years of regressions with 1368 00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,400 that person 1369 00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,079 it was the same being always it was a 1370 00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:30,400 medium-sized gray about five seven uh 1371 00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:33,839 the being gave him his name bazoo 1372 00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:35,920 client that client grew up to like this 1373 00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:37,599 being after his encounters every few 1374 00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,480 years or so um 1375 00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:42,319 and they would visit every few years or 1376 00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,520 so or that being and they would 1377 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,319 refurbish his electrical electro strip 1378 00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:49,040 electro strip on his heart 1379 00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,640 and then he had to have surgery late in 1380 00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:52,160 his life and he had his wife who was a 1381 00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,079 nurse in there during the surgery and 1382 00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,240 the wife heard the doctor say whoa this 1383 00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,799 man has a hole in his heart the size of 1384 00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,240 a silver dollar 1385 00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:02,960 but the blood is barely trickling out 1386 00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:04,880 so was there really an invisible 1387 00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:07,200 electromagnetic electromagnetic strip 1388 00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:08,960 that these beans had put on and helped 1389 00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,760 him 1390 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,920 it would be nice to talk to the doctor i 1391 00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,160 mean you know 1392 00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,799 you know the doctor or and the wife i i 1393 00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:18,480 don't know if she ever has them on the 1394 00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,390 she talks about missing time with her 1395 00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,520 clients 1396 00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:29,440 marks on their body 1397 00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,400 scoop marks pin pricks you know they're 1398 00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:34,319 either in a straight line or a perfect 1399 00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,680 circle or a triangle or square 1400 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,599 unusual bruises maybe in a perfect 1401 00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,920 triangle shape sometimes it's a straight 1402 00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:44,079 line cut on the arm 1403 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:45,760 and then overnight it heals into a pure 1404 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:47,200 white scar 1405 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,640 an experience that will wake up in a 1406 00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,240 different place than where they went to 1407 00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,319 sleep sometimes outside and sometimes in 1408 00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,559 somebody else's house 1409 00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,720 clothes are put on incorrectly 1410 00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:58,720 wake up with their clothes inside out or 1411 00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,040 upside down or sometimes someone else's 1412 00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:03,040 clothes on 1413 00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:05,359 if you if you saw the special unsolved 1414 00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:12,470 the berkshires 1415 00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:14,799 the woman said that her and her mother 1416 00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:16,480 were put back in the wrong place in the 1417 00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:17,520 car 1418 00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,040 because i think it was her mother it 1419 00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:21,359 could have been grandmother but 1420 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:22,880 the mother or grandmother was put in the 1421 00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,400 driver's seat and she's like 1422 00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:28,400 my mother never drove so they made a 1423 00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:30,160 mistake obviously it was obviously we 1424 00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:37,109 women and then we get in you know this 1425 00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,990 extraordinary the seating if you get a 1426 00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,440 chance to watch that with some of the 1427 00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:47,200 experiences who had experiences like 1428 00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:48,880 what i'm about to talk about women get 1429 00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:51,599 pregnant even after not being with a man 1430 00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:54,000 for an extended period of time pregnancy 1431 00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,520 lasts 1432 01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:58,000 two to two and a half months 1433 01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:00,079 starts out 1434 01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:05,349 she says these encounters start out with 1435 01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:07,280 a certain level of trauma all different 1436 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:09,599 types of non-human beings can be very 1437 01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,640 frightening 1438 01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:12,319 now like you think 1439 01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:13,520 frightening for those who don't know 1440 01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:15,440 what to expect or what's what it's all 1441 01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:17,359 about they see a beam of light come into 1442 01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,720 the room and they're paralyzed they 1443 01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,400 can't call out for help 1444 01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,079 they feel themselves being moved 1445 01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,559 sometimes into a ufo 1446 01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,559 and i know the skeptics would say that's 1447 01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:28,960 sleep paralysis but 1448 01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:30,480 i don't know how many patients she has 1449 01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,760 or clients where they have it happen 1450 01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:33,359 during the day but there are people like 1451 01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:35,440 that there are a lot of people like that 1452 01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:37,280 they're not asleep it's not sleep 1453 01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:39,680 paralysis for everybody 1454 01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,040 some folks are traumatized even when 1455 01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:43,119 they're just seeing a ufo up close they 1456 01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,640 feel like they're being noticed and 1457 01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,960 singled out by the occupants 1458 01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,319 he goes and that's usually the beginning 1459 01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:50,400 of a full encounter or abduction 1460 01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:52,400 on the craft this is barbara lamb for 1461 01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:54,480 people just joining on the craft they 1462 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,799 see disturbing things on a medical table 1463 01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:58,319 they're on a medical table that can't be 1464 01:01:02,470 --> 01:00:59,920 moved they're naked and being examined 1465 01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:02,480 by beings a sample of hair and skin and 1466 01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:06,240 eggs and sperm for the men are taken 1467 01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:09,680 made to have sex with an e.t now 1468 01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:12,079 i'm sorry but there's no way is that 1469 01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,000 okay i mean people say well you know 1470 01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,920 what's to help us and we agreed to it in 1471 01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:17,680 a soul contract before we entered this 1472 01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:19,839 life you're made to have sex with an e.t 1473 01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:21,119 i mean i think that's just people 1474 01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:23,280 wanting to put a positive spin 1475 01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:24,720 a lot of the other stuff you could say 1476 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:26,720 you know you know like wait the way we 1477 01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,200 treat animals 1478 01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:31,119 but we do breed animals too so but 1479 01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:32,960 forcing a human to have sex with an et 1480 01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,559 if that really went on 1481 01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:36,559 that's never okay so 1482 01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:37,760 um 1483 01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:40,240 mixed feelings on behalf of the abductee 1484 01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:41,839 on what part 1485 01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:43,520 on the part about having sex i don't 1486 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,760 know she wasn't clear on that 1487 01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:47,280 so they're pregnant pregnant for two and 1488 01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:49,280 a half two to two and a half months 1489 01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,799 two to two and a half months pregnancy 1490 01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,160 ends and then later they're showing the 1491 01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:54,319 hybrid baby and this is common for 1492 01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:55,599 people who have had this experience i 1493 01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,680 mean it's not it's not like five people 1494 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,359 there's a lot of women who have this who 1495 01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,119 have had this experience 1496 01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:02,880 i don't know what the numbers are 1497 01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:05,119 uh then later they're showing a hybrid 1498 01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:06,720 baby on the craft and told it's their 1499 01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:08,960 baby told to hold love and nurture them 1500 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:10,799 because it's part e.t 1501 01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:11,680 uh 1502 01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,200 they're told to hold love and nurture 1503 01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,839 them now because it's part et it will 1504 01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:17,760 grow up with the beings 1505 01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,839 but since it's also part human it needs 1506 01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,680 a it needs a human mother to nurture 1507 01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,359 them or it won't survive 1508 01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,200 and the one the one 1509 01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:27,280 being that she saw the baby it had had 1510 01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,920 slanted eyes a slit for a mouth small 1511 01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:31,039 nose 1512 01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,839 the mom still gives love and nurtures it 1513 01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:35,760 some women want nothing to do with those 1514 01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:36,799 babies 1515 01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:38,480 others who accept accept them have 1516 01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:41,119 visits later with the baby into their 1517 01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:42,799 teens 1518 01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,240 sometimes they'll even get to see them 1519 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:46,319 as an adult hybrid 1520 01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:48,880 some of them undergo uh the experiences 1521 01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:51,200 on the craft undergo brain operations 1522 01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:52,720 eye operations while they're on the 1523 01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:53,839 craft 1524 01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:56,319 uh but they they they're told it's oh 1525 01:03:00,190 --> 01:02:57,839 we're just tuning you up and improving 1526 01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:00,200 the function of your you 1527 01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:03,039 proctological exams 1528 01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:04,960 her clients say that the et's tell them 1529 01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:06,720 it gives them the best information about 1530 01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,400 the person's body 1531 01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:10,960 um more than any other test if the et's 1532 01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,480 find something malfunctioning they'll 1533 01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:14,240 tell the experiencer and then they'll 1534 01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:16,160 either heal it or warn them to go to the 1535 01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,160 doctor and then barbara says we do 1536 01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,160 similar things with flora and fauna and 1537 01:03:24,789 --> 01:03:22,480 animals and we put a chip in them to 1538 01:03:27,829 --> 01:03:24,799 find them and study 1539 01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,839 we also eat animals but all right 1540 01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:29,760 i'm not saying we're getting eaten by 1541 01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:32,799 non-humans but people do disappear 1542 01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:35,599 missing 9-1-1 1543 01:03:39,589 --> 01:03:37,039 david pilates 1544 01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:39,599 some advantages of the examine 1545 01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,480 exams on but done on experiences 1546 01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:43,920 because of all the healing they do right 1547 01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:45,599 on the table with some apparatus that 1548 01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,920 uses light that doesn't make any sense i 1549 01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:49,520 don't know if i took notes bad but some 1550 01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,440 of the some of the 1551 01:03:55,349 --> 01:03:53,520 healing they do takes place with some 1552 01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:55,359 apparatus that uses light and in 1553 01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:57,280 regression she tells experiences to ask 1554 01:04:01,109 --> 01:04:00,079 the beans what they're doing and why and 1555 01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:01,119 a lot of times they'll respond 1556 01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:02,559 telepathically oh no ask them 1557 01:04:07,349 --> 01:04:04,880 telepathically or out loud so barbara 1558 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:07,359 barbour lamb tells them to say that and 1559 01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:09,599 when the experiences do that they always 1560 01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:12,880 get an answer 1561 01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,920 and that calms the experiencer 1562 01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:17,760 what seems to be frightening 1563 01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:19,760 and invasive turns out to be a helpful 1564 01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:23,039 and benevolent advantages 1565 01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,720 they're healed and they're also taught a 1566 01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:27,119 variety of skills how to heal others 1567 01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:29,599 supposedly these beings will teach them 1568 01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,680 how to heal others including animals 1569 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,440 some experiences leave their jobs and 1570 01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:35,440 become full-time healers they learn the 1571 01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:37,280 processes the processes to help 1572 01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,240 themselves and then psychic skills pk 1573 01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,839 being able to move things with your mind 1574 01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:43,200 telepathy 1575 01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:44,640 and they're taught all of this on the 1576 01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:58,150 she's trying to find a spot 1577 01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:59,910 she says they're known these beings are 1578 01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:02,240 known to to calm down eat volcanic or 1579 01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:04,400 volcanic eruptions they fly into into 1580 01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:05,760 volcanoes 1581 01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:07,760 in mexico and you know they've seen i 1582 01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,520 know they've been seen a lot in mexico 1583 01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,520 around volcanoes 1584 01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:13,119 and then as we know experiences are 1585 01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,039 shown various disasters on the earth you 1586 01:05:19,109 --> 01:05:17,119 know is it a hologram 1587 01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:19,119 is it to warn them to be prepared and to 1588 01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:20,480 take care of the earth and then she 1589 01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:23,119 mentions uh the rua case 1590 01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:25,200 in zimbabwe and the children how they 1591 01:05:35,109 --> 01:05:31,109 she's convinced she's convinced barbara 1592 01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:35,119 is that many ets are concerned with 1593 01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:37,520 this planet she sees this as a very 1594 01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:39,119 she sees this as this very special 1595 01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:40,000 planet 1596 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,430 i don't know what that note is more seas 1597 01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:51,270 here we go there are 1598 01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:54,640 more species on earth than in all of the 1599 01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,280 other planets 1600 01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,200 that have life 1601 01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:01,200 put together i mean 1602 01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:03,520 we don't know i i don't think life has 1603 01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:04,480 as much 1604 01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,160 every other planet in the universe put 1605 01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:09,839 together i mean i don't think she said 1606 01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:13,440 galaxy but supposedly we're very special 1607 01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:15,200 and they created us and they want us to 1608 01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:17,440 continue they value our spirituality 1609 01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:19,839 caring empathy many of them do not have 1610 01:06:24,069 --> 01:06:21,920 those capabilities 1611 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:24,079 and when we set off nukes we also affect 1612 01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:31,670 we're in our final 1613 01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:33,119 change right now with everything going 1614 01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:34,480 on pollution 1615 01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:35,920 uh people are getting download 1616 01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,559 information to these from these beings 1617 01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,799 about free energy and that will some of 1618 01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:43,280 this inspires us to create free energy 1619 01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:46,000 but the powers that be are suppressing 1620 01:06:54,309 --> 01:06:51,829 uh these being create these being crea 1621 01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,319 beings create human e.t hybrids that 1622 01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:56,640 live here and they mix the male female 1623 01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,440 et dna and create a hybrid that lives on 1624 01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:01,680 earth and is in service to humans and 1625 01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,319 the planet which is 180 compared to what 1626 01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,160 david jacobs talks about 1627 01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,920 the hybrids are here to take over like i 1628 01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:10,240 said there's no way to know who is there 1629 01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,440 who's right 1630 01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,359 um 1631 01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:15,359 but i think 1632 01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:17,119 i'm not sure 1633 01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,160 jake is an outlier with his the way he 1634 01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:22,240 interprets that data apparently there's 1635 01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:24,559 the data is all the same it's just how 1636 01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,160 you interpret it um 1637 01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,480 but he is one of the extremes as far as 1638 01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:32,480 negativity with these beings 1639 01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:34,240 the beings have skills to heal and they 1640 01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:36,000 teach workshops these are the hybrids 1641 01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:38,720 that are on this planet allegedly 1642 01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:40,559 they're a bridge between us and ets and 1643 01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:41,760 they help us 1644 01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:44,319 like ets would like to but the ets can't 1645 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:46,079 because they can't withstand our viruses 1646 01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:48,160 and bacteria 1647 01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:50,319 they also send walk-in souls from the 1648 01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:55,520 e.t realm a human in their 30s or 40s 1649 01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:56,960 who doesn't want to be on this planet 1650 01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,039 anymore they go all right i'm done so 1651 01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,599 then they take the other soul to the e t 1652 01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:03,359 soul they replace the human soul the 1653 01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:06,160 human goes somewhere else 1654 01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:07,680 they make an agreement and then the 1655 01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,160 walk-ins are here for really benevolent 1656 01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:11,920 purposes they inspire us they make us 1657 01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,599 aware of et's and they connect us with 1658 01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,440 benevolent beings 1659 01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,960 the walk-ins come from the spiritual 1660 01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:18,640 realm and those who don't want to go 1661 01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:20,080 through they don't want to go through 1662 01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:21,440 being an infant they don't want to go 1663 01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:22,480 through childhood they don't want to go 1664 01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:26,080 into teenage years so they enter 1665 01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:28,239 a person here in their 30s or 40s they 1666 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:29,279 don't have to deal with all that stuff 1667 01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,480 and then that person gets the hell out 1668 01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:32,000 of here and then she's asked you have 1669 01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,839 you heard of my labs and barbara lam 1670 01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,520 goes yes many of my clients i don't know 1671 01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,120 why she didn't bring this up on her own 1672 01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,759 she goes many of my clients 1673 01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:41,520 have had that experience 1674 01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:43,040 where they're taken by humans to an 1675 01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,920 underground facility they see humans 1676 01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,000 military types and they also usually see 1677 01:08:51,669 --> 01:08:50,319 an e.t or two she knows many who have 1678 01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:51,679 experienced that 1679 01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:53,759 and who have experienced off-planet et 1680 01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:55,520 experiences and they prefer the 1681 01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,960 off-planet experiences to the my lab 1682 01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,480 i don't know why that wasn't brought up 1683 01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:02,159 in her lecture because it's too negative 1684 01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:03,440 i mean if it's part of your data it 1685 01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:09,189 but the lecture probably wasn't about 1686 01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:10,719 that so my bad 1687 01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,359 i wonder about this she says 1688 01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:15,199 you know david jacobs told me he wishes 1689 01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:16,960 he could have people who who can come to 1690 01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:19,759 me who have positive experiences 1691 01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:21,520 last night i was told david jacobs does 1692 01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:24,640 has does have positive experiences 1693 01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:26,719 and barbara lamb goes when we start 1694 01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:28,640 the people don't know what we're going 1695 01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:31,040 to find but many times not always events 1696 01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,480 that appear to be negative turn out to 1697 01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:34,640 be helpful and she says 1698 01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,920 she doesn't know why negative 1699 01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,920 experiences have been drawn to jacobs 1700 01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,839 and vice versa while the positive ones 1701 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,199 have been drawn to her although they're 1702 01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:43,440 not positive right away 1703 01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,560 whitley 1704 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:56,390 so 1705 01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:58,790 i spoke to barbara via email about that 1706 01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,400 whole situation barbara gave me a 1707 01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:02,400 statement but i'm leaving that all alone 1708 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:03,840 i have statements from a lot of people 1709 01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:04,960 involved 1710 01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:07,600 other researchers but 1711 01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:08,960 i think it's best that i just leave it 1712 01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:16,310 i still have contact with the person in 1713 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:19,600 question the female so 1714 01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:26,390 my lab et are the equivalent of a 1715 01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:28,840 reproduction of ufos 1716 01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:32,159 um just that the people who have my labs 1717 01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:33,760 see 1718 01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:37,040 non-human beings with military 1719 01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:40,000 so they're both there 1720 01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:41,040 i don't know if it means there's a 1721 01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:42,800 reproduction vehicle there or the humans 1722 01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:47,840 were on board the craft the the et craft 1723 01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:53,030 yeah 1724 01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:55,120 genga today hybrids are here to help i 1725 01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:56,480 never heard that too but i don't really 1726 01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:58,159 read a lot about hybrids i've heard 1727 01:11:03,590 --> 01:10:59,920 about it via jacobs but i don't i 1728 01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:03,600 haven't even read jacob's material um 1729 01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:04,719 not a big 1730 01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:06,560 deep diver into the abduction i mean 1731 01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:07,760 i've heard a lot of it i've heard 1732 01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:10,239 whitley street whitley speak 1733 01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:13,199 um so yeah i don't know 1734 01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,960 that's barbara lam i'm not sure if all 1735 01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:17,040 the data suggests that or if that's her 1736 01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,199 interpretation i don't know 1737 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,960 so here's whitley 1738 01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:22,560 talked about the panel yesterday which i 1739 01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,080 love that panel he goes it was very 1740 01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,239 powerful and interesting 1741 01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:27,920 um 1742 01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,440 we don't know what the visit 1743 01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:31,440 visitors are 1744 01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:33,120 he goes i hope they want i hope they 1745 01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:34,320 know what they are but sometimes i 1746 01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:35,280 wonder 1747 01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:36,719 unless we do this together it's not 1748 01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:38,080 going to happen at all we cannot wait 1749 01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,440 for the government 1750 01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:40,800 i don't think this the government will 1751 01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:46,550 i wish i had a whitley impersonation for 1752 01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,840 you you can make it obvious when he's 1753 01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:49,040 talking 1754 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:50,719 life is going to be much harder as we go 1755 01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,110 his journey that started in wonder and 1756 01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,360 then great and terrible darkness has 1757 01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:01,520 emerged into the richness and complexity 1758 01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:05,199 that he lives with today 1759 01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,880 he talks about trauma he goes there's 1760 01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:08,960 another another form of trauma called 1761 01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:12,320 cultural trauma where that seth shostak 1762 01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,400 and neil degrasse tyson are going 1763 01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:16,560 through he says they're like cicadas 1764 01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:19,760 screaming you know outside you hear them 1765 01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:21,760 so loud he goes and it's not funny it's 1766 01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,520 really serious because their reactions 1767 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:25,199 like neil degrasse tyson when you see 1768 01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:27,520 him squirming in his seat because he's 1769 01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:28,719 so uncomfortable he goes that's the 1770 01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,960 result of trauma it's like coroner 1771 01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,880 cornering a tiger their world view is 1772 01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:35,120 about to be overturned 1773 01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:37,199 why because someone is here and they're 1774 01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:40,640 so technologically far ahead of us 1775 01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:43,280 whitley does say though he's not so sure 1776 01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:45,199 they're spiritually 1777 01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,480 and 1778 01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:48,480 either ethically or morally ahead i'm 1779 01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:49,920 not sure which word he used but 1780 01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:51,679 something along those lines and yeah i 1781 01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:53,280 love that i know because people are like 1782 01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,320 well if they 1783 01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,040 if they can travel here they're probably 1784 01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,520 there's no war you know they're advanced 1785 01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:01,440 spiritually and he's like i'm not so 1786 01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:07,270 and then he said this bleeds off into 1787 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,960 the relationship between the soul and 1788 01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:10,480 the body 1789 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:13,040 the visitors this is cool for me because 1790 01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:14,800 he goes the visitors take him out of his 1791 01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:17,199 body because he can't do it 1792 01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,800 he went to he went to the monroe 1793 01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:20,880 institute which is a place in fact faber 1794 01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:23,199 virginia robert monroe started 1795 01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,280 after having his out-of-body experiences 1796 01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:27,120 and writing the books 1797 01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:28,400 and it's supposed to help you have it's 1798 01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,560 like a week-long you go to week-long 1799 01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:32,480 seminars or retreats and they're 1800 01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,600 supposed to help you have an out about 1801 01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,520 experience he said that didn't help and 1802 01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,120 then he worked with william beulman's 1803 01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:39,360 techniques if you ever buy a book on 1804 01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:41,199 out-of-body experiences william 1805 01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:42,880 billman's 1806 01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:44,960 adventures out of the body it's such an 1807 01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,560 amazing book back in the day i got to 1808 01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,800 see him lecture afterwards at the 1809 01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:50,560 conferences that we go to and then i 1810 01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:51,920 went out to dinner with him it was 1811 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:54,080 really great 1812 01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:55,040 uh 1813 01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,719 he said the beings would inject some 1814 01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,480 sort of energy between his neck and the 1815 01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:00,480 spine and it feels like he's unlocking 1816 01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:03,120 and that's how he gets out of body 1817 01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,480 he said he's been on out-of-body 1818 01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:06,320 missions where multiple witnesses saw 1819 01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:09,040 him he goes ask diana pasulka he goes 1820 01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,520 her scientist in the book tyler has seen 1821 01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:13,679 him when he was out of body i'm not sure 1822 01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:23,270 human mutilations no just humans missing 1823 01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:29,430 i love whitley um one of my favorites 1824 01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:30,800 one of my favorite lectures i went to 1825 01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:32,239 was at a house in 1826 01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,520 malibu drove here drove there from vegas 1827 01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:37,280 that's up on my site i transcribed that 1828 01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:38,880 whole lecture 1829 01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:40,400 he was great he's always a great he's a 1830 01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,750 we're not just physical bodies he goes i 1831 01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:47,920 don't believe in supernatural definition 1832 01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,080 or paranormal paranormal he goes we're 1833 01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:51,840 you know it's one nature some parts we 1834 01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:53,840 understand some parts we don't science 1835 01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:55,520 cannot penetrate beyond the physical 1836 01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:56,800 energetic world 1837 01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:59,520 once science learns this and they will 1838 01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:01,600 it will end the trauma for people you 1839 01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,159 know people like neil degrasse tyson and 1840 01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:06,880 seth shostak 1841 01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:09,360 i am not this is whitley i am not an 1842 01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:11,360 advocate for the visitors i'm an 1843 01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:13,520 advocate for us we're not less 1844 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:15,600 intelligent than the vis we're not less 1845 01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:17,440 intelligent than the visitors 1846 01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:20,719 as i know them very well they crash they 1847 01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,719 crash in their craft and his wife annie 1848 01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,719 who's now deceased but he says she still 1849 01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:28,239 communicates with him and they're one 1850 01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:29,600 soul together 1851 01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:31,920 he goes and he says i worry about you 1852 01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,159 whitley because you go with them and 1853 01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,719 they crash and whitney goes 1854 01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:38,640 it's not that bad they're very efficient 1855 01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:41,280 and ann says i want to see one so 1856 01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,560 whitley's like yeah they have a sense of 1857 01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,640 humor so 1858 01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:46,800 whitley goes show and one of your craft 1859 01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,880 so they're in a hot tub 1860 01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:51,120 outside and they hear a noise and they 1861 01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:52,960 look up and they said it was like a wood 1862 01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,080 pile 1863 01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:56,880 covered with christmas lights 1864 01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:58,400 you know when we talk about the 1865 01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,679 phenomenon being able to take any form 1866 01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:03,520 if that's an accurate portrayal of what 1867 01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:04,719 they saw it seems like you know they 1868 01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:05,840 were playing a little joke and they just 1869 01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:07,840 took a form because if you read keel 1870 01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,040 there's other 1871 01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,880 craft that look like there's no way they 1872 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:12,400 should be able to fly 1873 01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,080 so it was a wood pile looked like a wood 1874 01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:15,920 pile covered with uh 1875 01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:18,960 christmas lights and and and he goes 1876 01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,719 and streamer goes that's a ufo and what 1877 01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,400 they goes well it's not like the ones 1878 01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:25,120 i've seen she's like i hope not you 1879 01:16:30,790 --> 01:16:27,360 can't fly in that and then it moved away 1880 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,149 once the general media recognizes 1881 01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:36,080 experiencers he goes you know be 1882 01:16:39,910 --> 01:16:38,320 prepared to be traumatized again because 1883 01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,920 they're going to deny it 1884 01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:41,920 they cannot handle the idea that a 1885 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,800 superior superior 1886 01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:46,320 not ethically 1887 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:49,120 superior and don't forget that he says 1888 01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,040 cannot handle the fact that the superior 1889 01:16:54,390 --> 01:16:53,280 superior intelligence with technology is 1890 01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:54,400 here 1891 01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:55,840 and then he mentions how they're going 1892 01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:58,000 to push the false memory foundation he 1893 01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:59,840 mentions elizabeth 1894 01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:01,440 loftus 1895 01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:06,950 and then he goes he goes i've 1896 01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:13,669 i was known as the rectal probe man 1897 01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:15,840 he goes what about whitley schreiber the 1898 01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:17,679 rape victim because people made fun of 1899 01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,080 him it's like i was raped and people 1900 01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:22,719 were making fun of me 1901 01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,280 where experiences are the last social 1902 01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:27,360 group that can be bullied laughed at 1903 01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:29,920 divorced lose our jobs you know we're 1904 01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,400 victims we're victims of the visitors 1905 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,400 and our own people too people who make 1906 01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:36,800 fun of experiencers 1907 01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,719 many close encounter folks have gone 1908 01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:40,560 through this he was laughed out on larry 1909 01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:42,080 king after a tough experience the night 1910 01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:48,470 the broad general public will integrate 1911 01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:50,880 the presence their presence into the 1912 01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:53,360 into their belief systems but not us 1913 01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:55,280 he goes not the contactees the 1914 01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:57,920 experiences we're beyond that 1915 01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:00,400 and on his website unknowncountry.com he 1916 01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:01,840 has a lot of people experiences who 1917 01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,520 comment he goes 1918 01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:05,520 some have stopped 1919 01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,560 uh 1920 01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:08,159 their experiences with the visitors 1921 01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:09,760 because they don't like them i thought 1922 01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:11,840 you couldn't stop it but he says the the 1923 01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:13,920 visitors their their 1924 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,520 experiences have stopped and they didn't 1925 01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:17,440 want anything anything to do with it 1926 01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:24,390 he said he never forgot the day when he 1927 01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:29,590 he says one common thing among 1928 01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:31,840 experiences is close encounter folks is 1929 01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:35,280 they have some sort of childhood trauma 1930 01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:36,719 he said i've been accused of being 1931 01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,480 confused i'm not confused at all i'm a 1932 01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:40,640 very efficient efficient observer 1933 01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:41,920 however 1934 01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:43,920 he admits that what he saw may not be an 1935 01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:45,600 accurate portrayal of what was actually 1936 01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:47,040 there like i just said with the wood 1937 01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:49,199 pile if they could take any form you 1938 01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:50,640 know screen memories manipulate 1939 01:19:03,669 --> 01:18:57,590 skip that 1940 01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,669 said most kids have their memories have 1941 01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,440 to be recalled but with this particular 1942 01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,199 memory whitley said he went out on the 1943 01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,360 roof he has this memory on the roof and 1944 01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,040 then he went up on the air on some big 1945 01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:15,360 dark blue life raft with other kids they 1946 01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,719 were having fun 1947 01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,480 but the little men that were there with 1948 01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:20,000 them were gasping because the kids were 1949 01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:22,159 going to the edge and then the little 1950 01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:23,679 men were pulling them aside and then the 1951 01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,080 memory ends he goes i think that 1952 01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:28,719 probably happened 1953 01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,400 he says the visitors see him as someone 1954 01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:32,640 who would steal a flying saucer if given 1955 01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:34,159 the chance and he goes 1956 01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:40,950 he believes uh forensic hypnosis in the 1957 01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,040 hands of a pro is efficient as far as 1958 01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:45,440 recalling memories he had a professional 1959 01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:48,320 therapist dr klein 1960 01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:49,920 and he remembers one of the sessions 1961 01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:51,199 where 1962 01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:52,800 he was asked how old do you and whitley 1963 01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:55,280 remembered in a childhood voice 12 years 1964 01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:56,320 old 1965 01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:57,760 he remembered this experience where his 1966 01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:59,120 dad was there and they were i think they 1967 01:20:01,990 --> 01:20:00,400 were on board a craft and there were 1968 01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:02,000 cots and 1969 01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:03,920 his dad was so frightened he said the 1970 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:06,080 fear in his dad's face and because 1971 01:20:09,189 --> 01:20:07,760 whitley's like it's gonna be okay dad 1972 01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:09,199 and he said no whitley it's not all 1973 01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:10,639 right he just remembers that moment he 1974 01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:13,920 almost started crying talking about that 1975 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,760 uh the visitors are very good at keeping 1976 01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:17,440 our memories from us but he would 1977 01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:25,110 summer so this is his experience for 1978 01:20:28,709 --> 01:20:26,480 people who don't know whitley's 1979 01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:28,719 experience 1980 01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:30,560 he he went through it 1981 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:32,080 um and i'm gonna go through it again 1982 01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:33,360 because i know there i'm sure there are 1983 01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:34,719 some people that don't know the details 1984 01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:41,110 summer of 1985 he started having bad 1985 01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:42,159 headaches 1986 01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:46,000 so he knew something was wrong 1987 01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:47,840 he was up the he was up up at the cabin 1988 01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:50,320 in upstate new york um they they lived 1989 01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,760 in manhattan they had an apartment in 1990 01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:54,000 manhattan but they they also had a cabin 1991 01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:55,440 in upstate new york they would always go 1992 01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:56,800 to 1993 01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:59,040 so he started becoming really paranoid 1994 01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:00,960 and scared he bought guns he was like he 1995 01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,360 was it was like he was on guard and his 1996 01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,960 wife andy thought he was going crazy 1997 01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:06,480 he's like we live in the middle of 1998 01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:08,239 nowhere there's no crime here what is 1999 01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:09,520 wrong with you 2000 01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:11,760 then october of 1985 a light appeared 2001 01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:13,920 over his cabin as two of his friends 2002 01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,600 were sleeping over 2003 01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:17,280 uh his wife was sick and tired of 2004 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:18,960 sleeping through she didn't see it so 2005 01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:20,560 she goes i'm sick of tired of sleeping 2006 01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:22,239 through all the interesting things that 2007 01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:23,679 happened in this house 2008 01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:25,840 and that's when she said you know 2009 01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:27,280 why are you so paranoid he's like i 2010 01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:30,960 can't explain it then december 26 1985 2011 01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:32,480 wakes up in his bed 2012 01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:35,360 surrounded by bugs 2013 01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:37,679 and i'm not gonna edit here he was a 2014 01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,600 little graphic he goes 2015 01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,520 he was surrounded by bugs 2016 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,199 needles in his head they put needles in 2017 01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:45,040 his head and they rammed something up 2018 01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,760 his ass he goes i had many psychological 2019 01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:49,600 effects i felt dominated 2020 01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:51,920 they forced an erection 2021 01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:53,360 he goes you usually don't get an 2022 01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,880 erection when you're when you're in a 2023 01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:57,280 room surrounded by giant bugs 2024 01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:59,360 uh he ejaculated they took it ran away 2025 01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,920 with it he remembers the beans taking it 2026 01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,440 and then he mentions that he you know 2027 01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:05,040 jacobs and bud hopkins he's like we 2028 01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:06,400 argued over the years but he goes i 2029 01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:09,120 still think they both did good work 2030 01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:11,520 um now he's back in his house afterwards 2031 01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,800 the day after 2032 01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:15,040 he has physical injuries he just blows 2033 01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:16,560 him off told himself it must have been 2034 01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:18,880 an owl he goes the visitors create deer 2035 01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:21,120 and owl as screen memories he told 2036 01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,280 himself it couldn't be real but it hurt 2037 01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:25,679 like hell he had a hole where the needle 2038 01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:27,600 went in i think in his head goes but it 2039 01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:29,920 can't be real because if it is my whole 2040 01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:32,080 world will my whole world view will 2041 01:22:35,110 --> 01:22:33,440 implode 2042 01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:35,120 just like the scientific community will 2043 01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:36,480 implode soon 2044 01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,960 that's what he said he goes you'll 2045 01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,520 either grip your gun and grit your teeth 2046 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:43,120 and say 2047 01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:44,800 i'm gonna he goes you'll either grip 2048 01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:46,880 your gun or grit your teeth and say i'm 2049 01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:48,800 gonna go through this 2050 01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:51,679 so march of 1986 so that's three months 2051 01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,679 after his experience he realizes it's 2052 01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:55,679 real at that point he thought he was 2053 01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:57,840 going crazy and that's really what he 2054 01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,639 thought was going on 2055 01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,239 got into fights with his family he was 2056 01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:04,320 scared thought maybe he was psychotic he 2057 01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:05,840 told his wife listen just get away from 2058 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,600 me i'm not well i'm psychotic you really 2059 01:23:11,830 --> 01:23:09,360 need to get away from me but once he 2060 01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:11,840 realized it was real 2061 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:13,360 and that happened when he talked to his 2062 01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:14,880 friend timothy 2063 01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,639 listen whitley i know it happened and i 2064 01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:20,320 don't remember ever hearing the story he 2065 01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:21,760 goes i know it happened because at the 2066 01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:23,679 time of your experience 2067 01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:26,719 my wife's friends saw these little grave 2068 01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:29,440 beings walking around in their backyard 2069 01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:31,760 and so whitley is like so maybe that 2070 01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:33,440 experience that person had happened on 2071 01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:35,679 purpose so it gave whitley the ability 2072 01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:37,840 to accept his experience was real 2073 01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:41,040 so he sits annie his wife down he says 2074 01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,800 she's like she was what he goes she was 2075 01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:44,880 worried i was gonna ask for a divorce 2076 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:48,159 again and he says listen annie i was 2077 01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:51,040 taken aboard a flying saucer with little 2078 01:23:54,950 --> 01:23:53,280 men and she says 2079 01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:54,960 oh thank god i thought you were going 2080 01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,280 crazy that's pretty funny he's told that 2081 01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:59,040 story before 2082 01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:00,719 amazing that his wife was so 2083 01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,960 understanding of that 2084 01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:04,400 it's amazing that he goes it's important 2085 01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:06,080 to have good people on your side as we 2086 01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:07,760 go on your family and friends will be 2087 01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:09,840 more open and you can stop keeping this 2088 01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:13,360 secret if if you keep the secret 2089 01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:15,280 and took over at that point you know 2090 01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:16,639 trying to determine what's real what's 2091 01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:18,080 imagined 2092 01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,400 i went through that 2093 01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:22,800 not exactly my first ex-wife would have 2094 01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:25,040 experiences and she knew that i wouldn't 2095 01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:26,880 just accept them you know i would i 2096 01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:28,159 would accept them but when we would talk 2097 01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:29,520 about that we're like how do you know 2098 01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,800 what you're seeing is really actually 2099 01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:32,560 what you're seeing and like 2100 01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:35,679 i believe you're seeing it but it's like 2101 01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:37,040 i have no 2102 01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:38,880 evidence for myself so it's like and she 2103 01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:40,239 knew she couldn't tell people she would 2104 01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:42,080 tell me stuff though 2105 01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:43,280 there was times when she had some 2106 01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:44,800 feedback 2107 01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:49,270 talked about 2108 01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,719 i wasn't going to talk about this my 2109 01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:52,080 notes are not good but i didn't know 2110 01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:53,440 this they had 2111 01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:00,229 she says they were she says they were he 2112 01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:02,159 says they were showing the baby 2113 01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:03,280 i'm not sure if he's talking about a 2114 01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:04,639 hybrid here but that's kind of what he's 2115 01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,719 talking about later on 2116 01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,719 and then later he confronted a child a 2117 01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,320 boy that was real who ended up living in 2118 01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,480 his woods behind the cabin this is in 2119 01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:14,880 the book 2120 01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:17,120 the key i believe one of my favorite 2121 01:25:20,070 --> 01:25:18,800 striper books 2122 01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:20,080 and 2123 01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,679 this kid would hang up behind the cabin 2124 01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,880 he would smoke 2125 01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:24,639 it seemed like he had permanent internal 2126 01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:27,600 trauma he didn't know until recently 2127 01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,400 that 2128 01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:30,400 this kid may have been his kid this kid 2129 01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:31,920 followed him from the cabin in new york 2130 01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:33,120 to texas 2131 01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:34,639 he felt like the kid telepathically 2132 01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:36,480 touched his mind not to bother just as 2133 01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:38,800 an inquisitive kid would do 2134 01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,360 um but whitley drove him away he didn't 2135 01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,960 want him there he said he said he was 2136 01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:44,080 like really 2137 01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:45,600 when he was telling the story he was a 2138 01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,199 little bit depressed saying i could have 2139 01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:49,520 built a relationship that was part of me 2140 01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,040 you know that was part of me and part of 2141 01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:53,360 some other world but i failed him not 2142 01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:55,040 many people get to live with the child 2143 01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:57,040 that child that comes out of that union 2144 01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:59,280 you go you know i think of him now where 2145 01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:01,040 is he now is there any salvation for him 2146 01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:06,870 we must not fail these children as we go 2147 01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:08,400 forward he says 2148 01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:10,159 they will have skills we don't possess 2149 01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,639 telepathy is real but it's limited by 2150 01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:14,400 distance which i've never heard that 2151 01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:16,480 although i have no i have heard that but 2152 01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:18,159 i've also heard that it's not he goes 2153 01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:19,760 thank god telepathy is limited by 2154 01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:21,760 distance otherwise elon musk could force 2155 01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:24,800 me to uncontrollably buy multiple teslas 2156 01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:26,080 kind of funny 2157 01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,239 um so back in the he's back at the cabin 2158 01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:30,400 he started going out in the woods 2159 01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,960 getting a little courage and uh 2160 01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:34,560 wanted to re-engage with him on another 2161 01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:36,320 level 2162 01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,280 and 2163 01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:39,040 he said the hardest thing in his life 2164 01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:40,560 was to go back into those woods at night 2165 01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:42,719 by himself he goes i didn't piss myself 2166 01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:44,320 because i had pissed before i went out 2167 01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:46,320 he used those words he goes and now i 2168 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:49,120 don't feel like a rabblot anymore 2169 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:51,199 i feel like i'm a searcher and they're 2170 01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:52,560 my teachers 2171 01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,400 this phenomenon will accommodate you as 2172 01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:56,480 long as you accommodate it 2173 01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:58,239 they won't give you lottery numbers or 2174 01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:00,000 stock picks although he thinks they can 2175 01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:01,920 he goes but if you get it 2176 01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,679 if you do get lottery numbers or stock 2177 01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:05,040 picks he'll be pissed because he doesn't 2178 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:06,000 get him 2179 01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:08,800 um after the rectal probe jokes went out 2180 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,480 all that stuff south park made fun of 2181 01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:12,880 him he said his book sales plummeted 2182 01:27:15,990 --> 01:27:14,480 uh they got thousands hundreds of 2183 01:27:17,830 --> 01:27:16,000 thousands of letters that ann went 2184 01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:17,840 through that's at temple university i 2185 01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:19,199 believe the collection the communion 2186 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:24,149 uh he had an implant in his ear which 2187 01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:27,280 you can watch the surgery online 2188 01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,159 at somewhere on his site or youtube 2189 01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:32,639 he said the implant emitted a signal uh 2190 01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:34,480 signal he had it analyzed but the 2191 01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:37,199 results are classified i have no who 2192 01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:38,880 analyzed it that he got the results 2193 01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:40,159 classified he can't even look at the 2194 01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:41,840 results 2195 01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:43,840 i didn't know that i would love to ask 2196 01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:45,440 him details about that i will try to 2197 01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,120 interview him on my show or my youtube 2198 01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:48,800 thing 2199 01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:50,960 says since 2015 2200 01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:52,719 his relationship with the visitors that 2201 01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,480 started out with trauma and struggle and 2202 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,480 suffering and anguish has evolved and 2203 01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,480 changed it was a willingness on both 2204 01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,199 sides to do it now i'm here and i'm not 2205 01:28:04,709 --> 01:28:02,960 going away i'm not in trauma i'm not 2206 01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:04,719 struggling the visitors have become 2207 01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:07,040 helpful supportive loving and friendly 2208 01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:09,280 but they will never be pretty the way 2209 01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:11,600 they live and the way folks who 2210 01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:15,040 are close to them live he goes it's not 2211 01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:16,960 clean 2212 01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:20,800 visitors are slobs that was the big 2213 01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:22,880 reveal from today they don't throw their 2214 01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:25,120 garbage out 2215 01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:26,400 they live with 2216 01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:28,960 all of their dirty socks on the floor 2217 01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:30,560 you know someday 2218 01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:32,639 we can get rid of them we cannot drive 2219 01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:34,560 them off because we don't know what 2220 01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:37,760 level of reality they come from um 2221 01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,600 we can't have a war with someone that 2222 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:41,280 injects themselves into our physical 2223 01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:43,120 reality via technology that's what he 2224 01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:44,480 believes he believes there they come 2225 01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:47,040 into our world via technology 2226 01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:49,600 and now they wake him up at 3am 2227 01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,199 you know it was after his wife died they 2228 01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,800 would wake him up at 3am blow on his 2229 01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:54,800 face kiss him he goes maybe it was anne 2230 01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,440 he goes uh it moved him very deeply and 2231 01:29:01,990 --> 01:28:59,280 now he does that meditation at that 2232 01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:02,000 three o'clock time period 3 a.m is when 2233 01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:05,040 he does his med one of his meditations 2234 01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:06,560 i think the only thing i have left now 2235 01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:07,679 is 2236 01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:09,920 no i don't i have mark and danny oh my 2237 01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:15,750 how long i've been going 2238 01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,510 he talks about all right mark and danny 2239 01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,440 mark sims danny sheen 2240 01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:25,520 form the new paradigm institute 2241 01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:27,679 uh interface between human consciousness 2242 01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:30,239 and human reality and experiences 2243 01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:31,440 originally it was going to be put at 2244 01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:32,400 harvard 2245 01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:37,590 and mac noticed it was a pattern john 2246 01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:39,120 mack noticed it was a pattern with 2247 01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:41,120 experiences in their lives with these 2248 01:29:45,189 --> 01:29:43,520 experiences 2249 01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:45,199 and she and said 2250 01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:47,679 you know to mac why don't we change the 2251 01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:49,360 train these people for future encounters 2252 01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:50,480 we could teach them 2253 01:29:56,790 --> 01:29:53,600 holotropic breathing stanislav 2254 01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:56,800 extreme relaxation so maybe then when 2255 01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:59,040 the experienced experiencers encounter 2256 01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:00,960 the beings they'll be more calm they 2257 01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,560 won't throw things at the aliens because 2258 01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:04,400 people have done that 2259 01:30:07,430 --> 01:30:06,080 this way the aliens won't have to freeze 2260 01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:07,440 them because they're afraid of getting 2261 01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,880 hit by something or getting injured or 2262 01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:10,560 whatever it wouldn't have to paralyze 2263 01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:11,520 the people 2264 01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:15,830 so they have this one experience of 2265 01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:17,760 karen and she she learned the 2266 01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,679 holotrophic breathing 2267 01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,440 and and danny says the aliens were 2268 01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:23,760 pleased and they were like oh my gosh 2269 01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:25,360 she's not throwing things at us this is 2270 01:30:28,390 --> 01:30:26,239 great 2271 01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:28,400 and they took her to a planet to meet 2272 01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:30,639 her hybrid child 2273 01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:32,719 and danny's like let's form a diplomatic 2274 01:30:37,030 --> 01:30:35,199 reach out team to the et's 2275 01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:37,040 it talks about 1994 that's when john 2276 01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:38,800 mack from harvard the psychiatrist and 2277 01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:40,320 pulitzer prize winner who wrote about 2278 01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:41,920 lawrence of arabia 2279 01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:43,600 was killed in london when he stepped out 2280 01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:46,239 and looked the wrong way 2281 01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:48,400 a car hit him 2282 01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:50,080 so 2283 01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:53,040 after that mack was killed um a new 2284 01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,960 facility was offered or donated to the 2285 01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,480 new paradigm institute and it's in 2286 01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:58,320 northern california 2287 01:31:03,750 --> 01:31:01,760 70 000 square feet arc deco castle 100 2288 01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:03,760 miles north of san francisco on clear 2289 01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:06,320 lake uh lucerne california 2290 01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:07,920 and there's there's a little sign there 2291 01:31:13,030 --> 01:31:09,760 that says welcome to the switzerland of 2292 01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:13,040 california and he met mark sims who was 2293 01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:15,040 focused on global climate change after 2294 01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:17,360 his experience with teshbar which was 2295 01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:19,520 2012 i think 2296 01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:21,199 and danny was focused on climate change 2297 01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:22,800 so they joined that and worked on that 2298 01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:24,000 together 2299 01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,679 mark says the castle will take too long 2300 01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,520 to get ready so let's do it virtually 2301 01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:29,280 and that's why they have everything 2302 01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:30,880 virtual right now 2303 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:33,120 which i think is a great idea because 2304 01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:35,440 especially with covid 2305 01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:37,360 so they want to engage with the greatest 2306 01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:38,719 minds of the world we're not the only 2307 01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:41,120 ones in this universe they may be here 2308 01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:42,719 and how do we integrate that into our 2309 01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:45,440 world view so it's called the virtual 2310 01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:47,679 new paradigm institute they want to do 2311 01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:49,840 citizens outreach diplomacy and there 2312 01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:51,600 are two tower two towers on the campus 2313 01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:53,199 that's where you will go that's where 2314 01:31:57,750 --> 01:31:56,159 their virtual offices are 2315 01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:57,760 one of them is where the new paradigm 2316 01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,040 institute is 2317 01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:01,600 uh the really good stuff with craft and 2318 01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:03,760 bodies and all that stuff danny says 2319 01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:05,360 it's being hidden in some corporate 2320 01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:07,120 entity and the best scientific minds are 2321 01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:09,040 being kept out of the conversation just 2322 01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:10,639 like eric weinstein was talking about 2323 01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:12,719 yesterday and getting frustrated 2324 01:32:15,590 --> 01:32:14,400 why do i keep hearing about aerospace 2325 01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:15,600 companies 2326 01:32:19,990 --> 01:32:17,520 um 2327 01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:20,000 he mentions the jason's that group that 2328 01:32:23,590 --> 01:32:21,760 would work with the government on secret 2329 01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:23,600 defense stuff he goes we need those 2330 01:32:27,669 --> 01:32:25,600 folks those types of folks and 2331 01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:27,679 former former similar jason-like group 2332 01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:30,000 that focuses on focuses on peace and all 2333 01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:31,920 different kinds of human knowledge 2334 01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:34,159 they're all impacted we're all impacted 2335 01:32:38,470 --> 01:32:37,280 by quantum physics and et intelligence 2336 01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:38,480 he goes 2337 01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,560 can we use this et or whatever it is 2338 01:32:44,149 --> 01:32:42,400 that's me throwing that in et tech to 2339 01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,159 help us with climate change 2340 01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:45,600 and they're gonna teach courses at the 2341 01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:47,920 virtual new paradigm institute and it's 2342 01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:50,000 gonna be like a harry potter institute i 2343 01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:52,960 was like what harry potter institute 2344 01:32:57,189 --> 01:32:54,960 uh there'll be an experiencer area for 2345 01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:57,199 with counseling which that's great and 2346 01:33:01,030 --> 01:32:58,800 you can go in a private room nobody can 2347 01:33:02,550 --> 01:33:01,040 hear you 2348 01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:02,560 and the folks who are comfortable with 2349 01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:04,080 going through the training the holocrap 2350 01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:06,800 the holographic holotropic breathing and 2351 01:33:10,629 --> 01:33:08,960 other training to reach out to these 2352 01:33:11,669 --> 01:33:10,639 alleged et's he goes that you know they 2353 01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:11,679 could 2354 01:33:17,669 --> 01:33:15,840 policies and be part of that group who 2355 01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:17,679 want to communicate with the et's that's 2356 01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:19,280 one thing danny always says the et's the 2357 01:33:22,870 --> 01:33:21,280 et's the et's and i know he said before 2358 01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:22,880 that he doesn't know what they are but 2359 01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:24,400 he's left open the other possibilities 2360 01:33:28,629 --> 01:33:26,800 but he always resorts to et's 2361 01:33:30,709 --> 01:33:28,639 don't no no no need to worry about the 2362 01:33:32,470 --> 01:33:30,719 logan logan act when dealing trying to 2363 01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:32,480 communicate with ets i think that's 2364 01:33:35,910 --> 01:33:34,400 they'll act if you work with a foreign 2365 01:33:37,510 --> 01:33:35,920 government and i don't know the 2366 01:33:39,350 --> 01:33:37,520 specifics but it's called the logan act 2367 01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:39,360 you put you in jail treason type of 2368 01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:42,000 thing and then mark some sims jumps in 2369 01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:43,360 and he says 2370 01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:45,679 he stopped funding the in 2017 the 2371 01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:47,679 institute because there was no progress 2372 01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:50,000 and nobody was open to discussing this 2373 01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:50,880 he goes 2374 01:33:54,070 --> 01:33:52,400 people wouldn't leave their jobs to come 2375 01:33:56,149 --> 01:33:54,080 aboard because you know they'd have to 2376 01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:56,159 move to a new location in san francisco 2377 01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:58,800 if that ever got going um i would move 2378 01:34:02,950 --> 01:34:00,800 to san francisco or an hour north of san 2379 01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:02,960 francisco 2380 01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:04,159 and then all of a sudden the new york 2381 01:34:08,229 --> 01:34:06,480 times changed everything um 2382 01:34:10,390 --> 01:34:08,239 he always recognized the need for a 2383 01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:10,400 virtual institute uh we need to get 2384 01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:12,080 professionals and not amateurs and by 2385 01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:13,520 that he means people who are not paid 2386 01:34:18,790 --> 01:34:16,320 not that people are bad amateurs 2387 01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:18,800 get the data via foia uh witnesses 2388 01:34:22,709 --> 01:34:20,080 experiencers and place it in a 2389 01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:22,719 repository that anybody can access share 2390 01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:24,400 the data with other groups and then he 2391 01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:26,080 mentioned jeff jeffrey cripel yesterday 2392 01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:28,080 saying we need money we need people if 2393 01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:29,360 you want people to leave your jobs and 2394 01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:31,600 do this full-time to leave their jobs 2395 01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:37,750 and mark says he goes i'm blessed to be 2396 01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:40,000 fairly wealthy and i've kept the powder 2397 01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:41,840 dry over the years i guess he's meaning 2398 01:34:46,229 --> 01:34:44,239 he didn't back a lot of issues 2399 01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:46,239 he has a background of 3d graphics and 2400 01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:48,800 gaming tech and interactive uh computer 2401 01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:51,119 graphics which is he goes perfect to 2402 01:34:54,950 --> 01:34:53,280 figure out the tech and issues like he 2403 01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:54,960 goes he's the perfect guy to figure out 2404 01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:56,320 figure out tech issues like when you 2405 01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:58,080 have somebody in france who's on the 2406 01:35:01,750 --> 01:35:00,320 virtual institute and they speak french 2407 01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:01,760 and they can't communicate he can bridge 2408 01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:03,119 that gap with 2409 01:35:07,910 --> 01:35:05,440 translation plug-ins and he talks about 2410 01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:07,920 ae avatars you know some of them he'll 2411 01:35:10,870 --> 01:35:09,119 say well make sure people know they're 2412 01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:10,880 dealing with ae but some of the avatars 2413 01:35:14,070 --> 01:35:11,840 can be 2414 01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:14,080 you know like a gray or reptilian he 2415 01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:16,000 goes but there's good and bad reptilians 2416 01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:17,360 so we'll have some reptilians with an 2417 01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:20,639 attitude he's joking around but yeah 2418 01:35:24,709 --> 01:35:22,560 they can that that'd be fun you know et 2419 01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:24,719 uh avatars 2420 01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:26,400 make it interactive with oculus which i 2421 01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:28,239 know is virtual reality make a kit make 2422 01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:29,760 young kids will be want to do it young 2423 01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:30,560 people 2424 01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:32,480 the goal is to have brick and mortar but 2425 01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:34,320 it needs a lot of tlc and a lot of money 2426 01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,920 for remodeling the one up in northern 2427 01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:37,440 california 2428 01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:39,119 and once you're you're you learn and 2429 01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:40,320 you're qualified at the virtual 2430 01:35:43,750 --> 01:35:41,760 institute you'll be invited to the brick 2431 01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:43,760 and mortar and then you'll go into field 2432 01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:46,159 and attempt contact 2433 01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:47,920 we don't know what questions we will ask 2434 01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:49,520 of a highly advanced intelligent 2435 01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:50,880 civilization assuming they're 2436 01:35:54,310 --> 01:35:52,239 extraterrestrial 2437 01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:54,320 if we go beyond a certain point like 2438 01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:55,840 climate wise and environmental 2439 01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:58,000 denigration gets out of hand we may need 2440 01:36:01,350 --> 01:35:59,040 their help 2441 01:36:03,109 --> 01:36:01,360 the non-human intelligence but we have 2442 01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:03,119 to be very kiss the sims we have to be 2443 01:36:07,109 --> 01:36:05,440 very careful with how we do this 2444 01:36:08,709 --> 01:36:07,119 you know what are our what are what are 2445 01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:08,719 our core values 2446 01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:10,400 establishing peaceful relations with 2447 01:36:15,109 --> 01:36:12,880 et's we're not going to be armed 2448 01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:15,119 we're going to assume 2449 01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:16,560 that they are 2450 01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:18,800 technically and i believe he said 2451 01:36:24,310 --> 01:36:22,159 ethically superior and i think 2452 01:36:27,590 --> 01:36:24,320 i think the second part to assume that 2453 01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,600 they're ethically superior is a mistake 2454 01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:29,280 you know mark says you know they can 2455 01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:31,360 influence our minds if they want so in 2456 01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:32,320 other words they could have done 2457 01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:35,119 whatever they wanted over the years um 2458 01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:37,040 so 2459 01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:38,400 their message has always been about 2460 01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:40,639 climate change and nuclear you know 2461 01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:42,320 nuclear nukes 2462 01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:44,400 are they are friendly are they friendly 2463 01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:46,960 it appears some are trying to guide us 2464 01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:48,560 we need to identify the ones who have 2465 01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,320 warned us and reached and reached out to 2466 01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,159 them and then help hopefully they'll 2467 01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:54,320 give us guidance and then 2468 01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,239 we need help from academia and maybe 2469 01:37:01,350 --> 01:36:59,199 former government people to help us with 2470 01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:01,360 diplomatic relations 2471 01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:03,760 now the last part which is not short 2472 01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:13,830 who's still here bug is still here 2473 01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:16,629 whitley did talk about let me find that 2474 01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:18,080 maybe i missed it 2475 01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:20,719 whitley talked about the nordics 2476 01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:21,760 maybe 2477 01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:23,600 you know i wasn't i don't always get i 2478 01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:26,239 didn't have every perfect note 2479 01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:28,000 let me just look really quick if i see 2480 01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:34,470 nordics it's very possible i just missed 2481 01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:41,189 i need to put a graphic up with music 2482 01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,669 so yeah um 2483 01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:53,040 i felt like 2484 01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,480 i don't know i'll ask you guys what you 2485 01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:56,159 thought i thought today was all over the 2486 01:38:02,950 --> 01:37:58,000 place just so many different opinions on 2487 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:11,189 shoot i can't find it 2488 01:38:17,189 --> 01:38:14,070 let me just search for a second 2489 01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,669 no 2490 01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,189 maybe that's later maybe it's in the 2491 01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:23,119 panel 2492 01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:31,430 i gotta get a drink and i'll finish the 2493 01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:33,119 panel and then 2494 01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:35,440 if you have questions and i can eat 2495 01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:37,119 dinner 2496 01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:47,000 wow 2497 01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:02,229 oh yeah 2498 01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:03,360 all right 2499 01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:09,830 so the paddle was uh 2500 01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:14,870 mr summers i forget his first name mary 2501 01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:15,920 rodwell 2502 01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:17,119 barbara lamb 2503 01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:19,040 mark sims 2504 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:21,280 i don't think sims was there i think um 2505 01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:30,790 whitley got so little time 2506 01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,800 martin summers i think so barbara lamb 2507 01:39:35,590 --> 01:39:34,320 says you know start out people start out 2508 01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:35,600 fear and trauma they're poked and 2509 01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:37,040 prodded 2510 01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:39,440 it seems very non-consensual i'm like 2511 01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:42,400 seems it's non-consensual but you know 2512 01:39:46,229 --> 01:39:44,159 i'm not gonna put in the whole soul 2513 01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:46,239 contract you made an agreement and 2514 01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:48,159 signed it in soul blood 2515 01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:51,440 to undergo these experiences experiences 2516 01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:52,840 even if that's the case it's not 2517 01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:55,199 consensual to me 2518 01:39:58,149 --> 01:39:56,719 because however she goes some of these 2519 01:40:00,310 --> 01:39:58,159 folks realize that the 2520 01:40:01,830 --> 01:40:00,320 subsequent experiences where they are 2521 01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:01,840 working with different likable 2522 01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:05,760 acceptable beings in our human view 2523 01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,199 and they're inspiring these beings are 2524 01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:09,040 inspiring to be with they teach them all 2525 01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:11,600 kinds of things psychic abilities pk you 2526 01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,840 know psychokinesis telepathy healing 2527 01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:15,920 skills over many years starts at 2528 01:40:19,990 --> 01:40:17,760 childhood experiences talk about 2529 01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:20,000 different species all over the universe 2530 01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:21,600 and then she mentions the galactic 2531 01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:22,880 federation 2532 01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:26,239 does not take everybody in earth does 2533 01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,800 not qualify for the galactic uh 2534 01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:30,719 federation for obvious reasons we're 2535 01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:35,430 um kids and adults experiences they 2536 01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,040 learn about other ways of life on other 2537 01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:39,600 planets some not all of these beings 2538 01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:41,920 have a great amount of care for humanity 2539 01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:43,199 in this planet 2540 01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:44,560 and then linda molten howe which was 2541 01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:46,239 really hard to follow some of it she 2542 01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:47,600 goes 2543 01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:51,440 out today which i have not seen because 2544 01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,159 i've been doing this she said 2545 01:41:00,550 --> 01:40:56,639 41 of adults i'm not sure if it's the 2546 01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,560 united states 41 of adults think some 2547 01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:03,199 ufos involve alien beings from other 2548 01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:04,960 planets that's a lot 2549 01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:06,719 because that's up eight percent from 2550 01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,440 2019 2551 01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:11,199 she did have a close-up encounter with a 2552 01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:14,080 large craft i did not know that 1986 she 2553 01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:16,159 had just finished strange harvest about 2554 01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:21,990 and 2555 01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:24,000 she had law enforcement tell her that 2556 01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:26,080 these were carried out by creatures from 2557 01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:28,159 outer space and 2558 01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:30,159 go read or listen to christopher o'brien 2559 01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:31,600 he has a completely different take and 2560 01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:33,280 he thinks linda molten hal resorts to 2561 01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:36,320 the e.t explanation way too many times 2562 01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:38,880 so 1986 she's out of bank in aurora 2563 01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,760 colorado it's november sun goes hot sun 2564 01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:43,520 goes down behind the mountains it's dusk 2565 01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:45,760 it's beautiful silhouetted mountain 2566 01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:47,280 beautiful sky 2567 01:41:50,310 --> 01:41:48,800 she goes to myself she says to herself 2568 01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:50,320 this is so beautiful she walks through 2569 01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:51,440 her car 2570 01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:53,440 and she said something made her spin and 2571 01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,840 she spun around in her chair 2572 01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,440 really fast her briefcase on her 2573 01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,440 shoulder hit the car she was near it was 2574 01:42:04,390 --> 01:42:01,679 as if some as if something made her look 2575 01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:04,400 up and she saw a boomerang 2576 01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:06,880 she could see right the front 2577 01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:09,440 six layers um in front of her it was 2578 01:42:13,189 --> 01:42:11,040 clear it was almost like a plane going 2579 01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:13,199 over and the layers looked like a hotel 2580 01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:15,040 like hotel levels 2581 01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:16,639 and as she came down towards the back of 2582 01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:18,639 the boomerang she saw shapes and at the 2583 01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:20,320 end there were objects 2584 01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,199 carved like a quartz crits crystal she 2585 01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:24,800 says i'm not saying they were a crotch 2586 01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:26,159 quartz crystal but it looked like that 2587 01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:28,000 it was multifaceted she could see 2588 01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:30,080 through it the quartz crystal 2589 01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:31,600 uh nobody else was there she said that 2590 01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:33,679 was kind of weird that time of the day 2591 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,320 and it moved very slow unnaturally slow 2592 01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:38,080 she sketched it too she did not have to 2593 01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:39,119 sketch 2594 01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:40,080 and she's starting to get more 2595 01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:43,840 whistleblower reports than ever before 2596 01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,000 before the experience she was more 2597 01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,400 suspect of suspect of experiencer 2598 01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:50,000 stories she couldn't relate with them 2599 01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:52,800 but afterwards after her sighting 2600 01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:54,560 you know she said it made her more 2601 01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:56,719 flexible when listening to experiencers 2602 01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:58,400 and she's like was that designed to help 2603 01:43:01,910 --> 01:43:00,000 her with that 2604 01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,920 and she mentions the navy pilots being 2605 01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:03,679 allowed to talk to the press now i'm not 2606 01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:04,800 really sure 2607 01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:07,440 if it was allowed i think 2608 01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:09,040 it wasn't classified and the ones who 2609 01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:11,600 were not on duty who retired they were 2610 01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,199 allowed to talk about it because nobody 2611 01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:15,040 ever told them not to 2612 01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:16,800 but that's a major change for her the 2613 01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,709 she said at one point i don't know what 2614 01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,480 year this was she was the government was 2615 01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:24,159 telling her and she had a tap on her 2616 01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:26,320 phone 2617 01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,400 and 2618 01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:30,080 i've heard a story from somebody on the 2619 01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:31,520 other end 2620 01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:33,440 related to that her tap phone being 2621 01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:34,960 tapped and she said a local phone 2622 01:43:38,470 --> 01:43:37,040 company confirmed it i don't know how 2623 01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,480 why a local company 2624 01:43:42,310 --> 01:43:40,639 if the federal government or whoever put 2625 01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:42,320 a tap on your phone and you call up the 2626 01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:43,679 phone company and you say yes can you 2627 01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,119 tell me if my phone is tapped well she 2628 01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:46,800 said the local phone company confirmed 2629 01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:48,960 it and they said linda it's a legal tap 2630 01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:51,199 and we can tell you nothing more and she 2631 01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:53,119 was a no well-known media person at the 2632 01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,800 time 2633 01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:56,480 and she talked about after world war two 2634 01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:58,320 we began building the deepest black 2635 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,480 black programs and it's still there the 2636 01:44:05,189 --> 01:44:02,320 power brokers know about what's going on 2637 01:44:08,229 --> 01:44:05,199 humans are deliberately being kept blind 2638 01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:08,239 this is amazing she is 79. 2639 01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:11,119 linda moulton howe is 79 and she goes 2640 01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:12,639 that's amazing she looks great she's 2641 01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:14,480 still working and 2642 01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:15,920 she goes in her opinion this is the most 2643 01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:17,679 dangerous situation we can imagine 8 2644 01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,920 billion souls on this planet and mines 2645 01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:21,920 unless something radically changes you 2646 01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:24,000 know the same power brokers who build 2647 01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:26,560 black projects and underground bases and 2648 01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:28,480 who have kept us from the truth and she 2649 01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:30,560 didn't finish the sentence 2650 01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:33,520 but it's the same people she said 2651 01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:35,040 i don't know about underground bases i 2652 01:44:37,669 --> 01:44:36,480 don't know anything about that you know 2653 01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:37,679 it's all and i know people have written 2654 01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:39,280 about it and lectured about it all 2655 01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,520 related to one huge fact you know 270 2656 01:44:45,189 --> 01:44:43,440 million years there's been three 2657 01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:45,199 non-human groups who have been competing 2658 01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:46,960 with each other for earth 2659 01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,679 as their own planet uh 2660 01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:51,360 the last two years she's got info that 2661 01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:53,040 the earth is like a hotel humans are 2662 01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:54,960 like surface lights on the floor and 2663 01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:57,040 there are a lot of lights 2664 01:44:59,750 --> 01:44:58,880 the next 20 years will only survive 2665 01:45:00,830 --> 01:44:59,760 because 2666 01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:00,840 there are 2667 01:45:05,750 --> 01:45:04,239 non-humans uh 10 to 20 light years away 2668 01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:05,760 i'm not who are concerned about our 2669 01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:11,590 i'm not sure if she means they're going 2670 01:45:14,950 --> 01:45:12,880 to come here because they can get here 2671 01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:14,960 quickly i don't know 2672 01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:18,800 a dia guy her dia guy told her in 1999 2673 01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:21,760 and that's in i think a strange harvest 2674 01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:24,000 uh the blood the beautiful laboratory of 2675 01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:32,070 and then 2676 01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:33,920 marshall summers 2677 01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:37,119 considers himself a contactee 2678 01:45:44,229 --> 01:45:42,149 the presence that is here the 2679 01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:44,239 intelligences want us to think that 2680 01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:46,000 they're here to help 2681 01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:47,840 but they're working without our approval 2682 01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:49,440 they're working behind the scenes and he 2683 01:45:53,270 --> 01:45:51,600 goes that's harmful to us 2684 01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:53,280 they tell us these beings tell us it's 2685 01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:55,520 for the greater good 2686 01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:58,320 for a higher cause he goes this planet 2687 01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:00,320 is valuable valued by others and we're 2688 01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,719 destroying it at a phenomenal rate 2689 01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:04,480 and we may destroy ourselves in the 2690 01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:05,760 future 2691 01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:07,920 this is 2692 01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:09,840 they have listened to our radio 2693 01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:12,560 broadcasts and know a lot about us we 2694 01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,960 unknowingly exposed ourselves to whoever 2695 01:46:18,149 --> 01:46:16,560 wants to use that information he said 2696 01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:18,159 that wasn't very smart 2697 01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:19,840 he says the allies of humanity 2698 01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:22,239 information came in four parts uh it was 2699 01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:24,639 like i think like seven years apart 2700 01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:26,880 i'm only now getting into that 2701 01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:29,280 the only 2702 01:46:33,189 --> 01:46:31,040 only message was before and that message 2703 01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:33,199 helped so he did have one message before 2704 01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:34,400 from them and it was almost like you 2705 01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,840 know trying to get him to be open to 2706 01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,920 taking mess to take the message and he 2707 01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:39,760 said whatever that message was was i 2708 01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:41,280 have to check out the book or a lecture 2709 01:46:44,950 --> 01:46:42,800 he said that helped him to convince it 2710 01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:44,960 helped to convince him taking the the 2711 01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:47,920 big message which in four books 2712 01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:54,149 i feel like i'm nick pope my first uh 2713 01:47:02,070 --> 01:46:58,800 time i saw nick pope in florida it was 2714 01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,470 the conference but it was in gulf breeze 2715 01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:06,480 nick pope the first time whitley street 2716 01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:08,320 was there i have a picture with the two 2717 01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:10,239 of them and nick pope was so nervous in 2718 01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:11,920 his lecture he was doing this 2719 01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:14,159 and then i worked for the uk 2720 01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:17,440 and then i saw ufos and then 2721 01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:18,719 he kept going like this it was just 2722 01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:20,960 non-stop and he wouldn't drink though 2723 01:47:24,870 --> 01:47:22,880 it's kind of funny 2724 01:47:29,990 --> 01:47:24,880 i have to find that picture um 2725 01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:32,149 he says they're here the ones who are 2726 01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:34,639 not friendly because they're 2727 01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:37,600 i heard that today interesting he said 2728 01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:38,880 i don't know if you saw it said it here 2729 01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:41,520 but he said the ones that were here 2730 01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:44,159 helpful to us they left 2731 01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:46,639 so it would be clear 2732 01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:49,119 that whoever was here now was not 2733 01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:50,239 helping us 2734 01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:51,440 he set up the other ones who were here 2735 01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:53,360 that were helping us according to this 2736 01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:54,320 message 2737 01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:56,080 it would be so hard to tell who was who 2738 01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:58,719 and he said they made it easier they got 2739 01:48:02,149 --> 01:48:00,320 the hell out of here and now all we have 2740 01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:02,159 is the negative or ones that you know 2741 01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:04,320 are using us and it's pretty clear you 2742 01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:05,920 can tell it's like whoever's here 2743 01:48:09,109 --> 01:48:07,760 whatever is here 2744 01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:09,119 they're the ones that are not good 2745 01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:10,639 there's nobody good here according to 2746 01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:12,719 him according to this message which is 2747 01:48:19,109 --> 01:48:16,400 in four books all free online 2748 01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,119 i like i like the information but 2749 01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,639 you know it's so much different than 2750 01:48:24,550 --> 01:48:22,400 everybody else and 2751 01:48:26,310 --> 01:48:24,560 who knows who's right it's all channeled 2752 01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,320 like material so 2753 01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:29,280 not all of it but a lot of it is 2754 01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:31,360 so the book came in four parts 2755 01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:32,480 and 2756 01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:38,159 resource he's listened to abductees who 2757 01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:39,840 struggle with ptsd in their lives 2758 01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:41,600 because of their experience 2759 01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:43,520 just like war trauma and they can't even 2760 01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:44,880 some of them can't integrate it into 2761 01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:47,360 their lives a dark part it's a dark part 2762 01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:49,119 of the alien presence it brings up 2763 01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:51,760 mutilations um i forget the guy's name 2764 01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:54,320 dr schuler but one of the pathologists 2765 01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:59,590 that guy had his own abduction 2766 01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:01,760 experience uh he studied snippy the 2767 01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:03,199 snippy horse 2768 01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,600 which was in the san luis valley which 2769 01:49:09,189 --> 01:49:07,440 christopher o'brien if you ever get to 2770 01:49:17,669 --> 01:49:09,199 read the book the mysterious valley 2771 01:49:17,679 --> 01:49:26,070 i lost my place sorry 2772 01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:29,109 and this person the guy who studied the 2773 01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:30,719 cattle mutilations believed that no 2774 01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,400 technology on this planet could carry 2775 01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,040 out those mutilations 2776 01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:37,440 once again i i do refer to an expert on 2777 01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:38,960 academy relations who thinks most of 2778 01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:41,599 them are carried out by a human agency 2779 01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:43,760 they may have advanced tech but 2780 01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:46,480 they would have to have advanced tech 2781 01:49:50,870 --> 01:49:48,960 but this person was also in contact with 2782 01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:50,880 hopkins and jacobs 2783 01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:52,080 and these beings pretend that they're 2784 01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:53,520 helping us but 2785 01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:55,280 they're doing it behind our backs and 2786 01:49:58,390 --> 01:49:56,960 they're not telling us their agenda or 2787 01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:58,400 anything they have no right to do that 2788 01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:00,480 without our permission trying to 2789 01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:02,320 persuade us that they're here to help 2790 01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:04,320 when they're not that's not acceptable 2791 01:50:07,109 --> 01:50:05,280 he says 2792 01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:07,119 maybe that's their ethic maybe that's 2793 01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:09,280 their ethics but it's not ours 2794 01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:11,119 we're the native people they're not they 2795 01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:12,560 have no permission to be here even 2796 01:50:16,390 --> 01:50:14,639 though they may claim that they do of 2797 01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:16,400 course we may not be the native people 2798 01:50:19,270 --> 01:50:18,320 here how does he know that he doesn't 2799 01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:19,280 know that 2800 01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:22,080 maybe the messages tell him that but 2801 01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:23,360 we might we might not have been the 2802 01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:24,800 first ones here 2803 01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:27,280 uh he's open to contact with a helpful 2804 01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:29,920 civilization under our conditions 2805 01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:31,360 um and then he says when people say 2806 01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,280 everything happens for a reason he's 2807 01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:35,199 like i don't buy that i don't either i 2808 01:50:38,629 --> 01:50:36,560 mean i don't like that 2809 01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:38,639 no matter what happens in your life 2810 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:41,040 oh car just ran over my foot 2811 01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:43,520 everything happens for a reason you know 2812 01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:45,360 i guess i was supposed to have a lot of 2813 01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,280 pain tonight 2814 01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:49,440 they're dazzling us with their tech but 2815 01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:52,239 underneath they're undermining us you 2816 01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:54,480 know we think of 2817 01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:56,800 what we think of the galactic federation 2818 01:51:02,790 --> 01:50:58,880 is really a vast trading network it's 2819 01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:02,800 all about trading um and he says 2820 01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:04,960 free societies must operate without that 2821 01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:06,880 type of network 2822 01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:09,440 the allies say intervention made us 2823 01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:11,199 is made up of various forces trying to 2824 01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:13,199 get control of the resources on earth 2825 01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:15,520 they're not an invading force not 2826 01:51:19,589 --> 01:51:17,840 outright invasion either um 2827 01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:19,599 that's not he goes that's not allowed in 2828 01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:22,159 this part of the galaxy or the universe 2829 01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:23,840 uh 2830 01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:25,760 he goes the only questions we've kind of 2831 01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:27,440 only question related to the phenomenon 2832 01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:29,280 that we have kind of answered is what is 2833 01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,800 happening and that's basic you know we 2834 01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:32,480 have craft in our sky that's about it 2835 01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:35,440 and people are having experiences that 2836 01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,679 some view is not good 2837 01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:39,679 what can you unite the world he thinks 2838 01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:41,520 this that we're facing an intervention 2839 01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:43,199 which is not a good intervention from 2840 01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:47,040 these groups he goes that could unite us 2841 01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:48,639 he goes do we want to consider all 2842 01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,400 possibilities of what we're dealing with 2843 01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:51,920 or do we just really just want to feel 2844 01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:54,080 good about their presence here i do 2845 01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:56,320 think there are people that 2846 01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:57,679 they don't want to think of anything 2847 01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:58,800 negative 2848 01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:59,679 um 2849 01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:00,960 so 2850 01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:03,119 they lean towards it being positive or 2851 01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:05,520 all positive or mostly positive 2852 01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:11,669 um he goes our innate intelligence can 2853 01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:13,280 help us discern what's true and what's 2854 01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,040 not true what's right and what's not 2855 01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:17,360 right we're not using that we're 2856 01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:18,880 operating out of fear and ignorance and 2857 01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:20,719 then you hear linda a couple times 2858 01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:23,119 during that linda how was saying yes yes 2859 01:52:25,990 --> 01:52:24,159 i agree 2860 01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:26,000 because we're being inculturated to 2861 01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:27,360 these groups 2862 01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,239 via the power of persuasion they can put 2863 01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:32,000 thoughts in your head and your mind they 2864 01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:33,679 can make you see images 2865 01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:35,119 they can make you see what you want to 2866 01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:36,960 see they can appear at the foot of your 2867 01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:38,800 bed as a religious figure 2868 01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:40,400 and then linda martin house 2869 01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,000 linda mountain house says 2870 01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:44,400 one of the themes of the last decade of 2871 01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:46,159 military folks you know they were 2872 01:52:51,030 --> 01:52:48,880 briefed after missions with ebe's uh 2873 01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:51,040 extraterrestrial biological entities 2874 01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:52,880 what people don't understand is that the 2875 01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:55,280 genesis those who are in control of the 2876 01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:56,800 garden of eden 2877 01:53:02,070 --> 01:52:59,679 this intelligence they're the reptilians 2878 01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:02,080 when the greeks with zeus and all those 2879 01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:03,599 gods i think she's suggesting they're 2880 01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:05,679 real people came on the scene they were 2881 01:53:10,390 --> 01:53:06,800 head to head that were with the 2882 01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:10,400 reptilians deep beneath the earth 2883 01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:12,159 how did the grace come about uh we don't 2884 01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:13,840 know that's that's confusing that's a 2885 01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:15,360 challenging claim 2886 01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:17,360 um she says 2887 01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:19,199 are those challenging that claim of 2888 01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:21,360 earth 2889 01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:22,880 are those challenging that claim of 2890 01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:24,800 earth the spiritual leaders of earth's 2891 01:53:27,669 --> 01:53:25,920 history i'm not sure what you're saying 2892 01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:27,679 there or my notes 2893 01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:30,719 um but marshall 2894 01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:31,920 jumps in 2895 01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:33,199 and he says i don't believe in that 2896 01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:34,400 mythology 2897 01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:36,000 it's good for symbology and i think he's 2898 01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:37,520 talking about the greek stuff he goes 2899 01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:38,800 i'm not sure about reptilians but he 2900 01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:40,719 goes i try to avoid multi-dimensional 2901 01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:45,350 and then linda won't ask the question 2902 01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:46,880 she goes 2903 01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,719 but he goes i can answer your question 2904 01:53:55,109 --> 01:53:52,239 i can't answer your question because i 2905 01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:55,119 don't think your premises are valid 2906 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:57,360 i was like ooh there was silence there 2907 01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:58,320 which i don't think she took it 2908 01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:59,679 personally 2909 01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:01,440 he goes this it's all about deception 2910 01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:04,080 these groups are deceiving us 2911 01:54:07,589 --> 01:54:05,840 if the government saw it as a threat in 2912 01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:07,599 the beginning there's no way to respond 2913 01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,440 to it practically now 2914 01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:11,119 you know and it's made them be dishonest 2915 01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:13,040 about it that makes sense 2916 01:54:16,709 --> 01:54:14,560 they're stuck with a secret they can't 2917 01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:16,719 share because they can't you cannot see 2918 01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:18,159 the government telling the population 2919 01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:19,840 we're dealing with an opponent that we 2920 01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:22,239 can't not combat 2921 01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:23,520 that's what we always wonder how do you 2922 01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:24,800 come out and say that you know they're 2923 01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:27,920 here we cannot do anything about it 2924 01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,000 if they're helpful that's another story 2925 01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:32,239 and danny jumps in linda do you ever 2926 01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:34,000 hear from former military sources that 2927 01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:35,280 our government has given these beings 2928 01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:37,119 permission to be here 2929 01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:39,040 and then she talks about charge hill 2930 01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:40,400 allegedly 2931 01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:41,280 you know 2932 01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:42,960 talked about keeping the secret for 50 2933 01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:45,280 years or the stock market will collapse 2934 01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,040 civilization will suffer and then 2935 01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,599 allegedly eisenhower met with et's on 2936 01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:51,360 his trip to palm springs he didn't go to 2937 01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:53,440 the dentist as was you know written down 2938 01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:56,000 in the official diary whatever it is the 2939 01:54:59,270 --> 01:54:57,280 notes uh 2940 01:55:01,350 --> 01:54:59,280 they supposedly signed some treaty with 2941 01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:01,360 the gray and this is where i'm like ugh 2942 01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:03,679 we're all over the place 2943 01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:05,440 lou wants to demolish ufology and there 2944 01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:07,199 are reasons if you listen to this 2945 01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,480 lecture and what i've been saying it's 2946 01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:11,280 just all over the place um 2947 01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:13,280 the gray supposedly 2948 01:55:17,830 --> 01:55:15,679 one source tells her that the blonde or 2949 01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:17,840 the blondes are supposed to be pitted 2950 01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:19,280 against the reptilians and the graves 2951 01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:21,199 are supposedly play some role of being 2952 01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:22,719 intermediaries 2953 01:55:28,550 --> 01:55:26,800 the deal eisener our sign 2954 01:55:30,709 --> 01:55:28,560 you know you guys can do x amount of 2955 01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:30,719 mutilations and x number of humans can 2956 01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:32,880 be taken in exchange we get weapons and 2957 01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:36,000 technology it's a schizophrenic history 2958 01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:37,840 we've we've never been told the truth by 2959 01:55:43,030 --> 01:55:39,760 the anunnaki and the sumerians it's like 2960 01:55:44,390 --> 01:55:43,040 all over the place i'm sorry it's just 2961 01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:44,400 you get people new to this they're going 2962 01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:45,520 to be like 2963 01:55:47,990 --> 01:55:46,800 i'm sorry 2964 01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:48,000 that's why i 2965 01:55:52,550 --> 01:55:50,159 that's why my blog is mostly the more 2966 01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:52,560 the conservative stuff 2967 01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:54,560 um 2968 01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:57,360 but this was part of it so you know 2969 01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:00,639 i agreed to do all the lectures i'm not 2970 01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:03,199 going to transcribe everything 2971 01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:05,920 but i look forward to tomorrow with lou 2972 01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:06,800 and 2973 01:56:10,629 --> 01:56:09,199 ralph blumenthal 2974 01:56:12,950 --> 01:56:10,639 and i like some of this stuff i love 2975 01:56:15,189 --> 01:56:12,960 whitley and i'm interested in 2976 01:56:20,709 --> 01:56:15,199 marshall um 2977 01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:23,189 so marshall jumps in says i think that's 2978 01:56:30,709 --> 01:56:24,880 an interesting story and i resonate with 2979 01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,629 any allies would never come here and do 2980 01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:34,719 the thing he goes any allies of us would 2981 01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:36,239 never come to this planet and do the 2982 01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,080 things that are being done right now 2983 01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:40,159 kidnapping uh 2984 01:56:44,550 --> 01:56:42,239 and then one abductee told him you know 2985 01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:44,560 not everyone is returned 2986 01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:46,239 and then linda jumped in she goes yes 2987 01:56:49,669 --> 01:56:48,480 that's true and that there's experiments 2988 01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:49,679 being done 2989 01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:51,040 they're here to serve their own 2990 01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:52,480 interests and i'll tell you i've heard 2991 01:56:57,430 --> 01:56:54,880 that from a great source saying 2992 01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:57,440 every every whoever's visiting us they 2993 01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:59,599 all have their own agenda they all want 2994 01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:01,520 something from us 2995 01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:02,719 um 2996 01:57:07,750 --> 01:57:04,159 but they're here to serve their own 2997 01:57:10,229 --> 01:57:07,760 interests according to mr sanders or 2998 01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:10,239 i forgot his name already marshall sorry 2999 01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,480 long day long notes 3000 01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:14,639 they're not here 3001 01:57:18,070 --> 01:57:16,000 just so they're here to serve their own 3002 01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:18,080 interests but they're not going to use 3003 01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:19,920 force 3004 01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:22,800 the way we can come back into power 3005 01:57:26,550 --> 01:57:25,440 you know according to the briefings the 3006 01:57:28,709 --> 01:57:26,560 only way 3007 01:57:30,790 --> 01:57:28,719 they can be here is that we encourage it 3008 01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:30,800 or we approve it so maybe there is um 3009 01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:32,560 some sort of we talk i talked about this 3010 01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:34,320 with michael 3011 01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:36,880 uh who i interviewed not michael vi the 3012 01:57:47,430 --> 01:57:45,830 what did i say we talked about 3013 01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:47,440 approving it 3014 01:57:53,109 --> 01:57:50,320 i forgot sorry my brain is mush it was a 3015 01:57:54,790 --> 01:57:53,119 long day of long note taking so they can 3016 01:57:57,669 --> 01:57:54,800 only be here 3017 01:57:59,510 --> 01:57:57,679 if we encourage it or approve of it 3018 01:58:01,270 --> 01:57:59,520 and that's why they recruit people to be 3019 01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:01,280 apologists 3020 01:58:04,550 --> 01:58:02,880 you do have a lot of people you know 3021 01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,560 saying and i know people 3022 01:58:07,990 --> 01:58:06,000 there are people who are sincere but 3023 01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:08,000 it's like it's such a positive message 3024 01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:09,520 with some people 3025 01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:10,880 you know so they recruit people to be 3026 01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:12,719 apologists and spread their message 3027 01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:14,639 support their mission 3028 01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:16,480 since they can't be in our atmosphere so 3029 01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:17,599 they oh 3030 01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:18,960 that was i mentioned with michael so 3031 01:58:23,910 --> 01:58:21,199 they have human 3032 01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:23,920 human uh proxies that they have made 3033 01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:25,840 deals with 3034 01:58:31,109 --> 01:58:29,119 don't know if that's true but 3035 01:58:32,629 --> 01:58:31,119 and then these greedy humans will do 3036 01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:32,639 stuff so that's how they can get things 3037 01:58:35,350 --> 01:58:34,080 done without certain you know without 3038 01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:35,360 doing certain things without crossing 3039 01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:37,360 the line if the humans are doing it then 3040 01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:39,360 you know then they've been given the 3041 01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,480 permission 3042 01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:42,400 allegedly 3043 01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:45,040 uh so people support them they recruit 3044 01:58:49,030 --> 01:58:46,719 people spread their message and since 3045 01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:49,040 they can't be here they need a human 3046 01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:51,199 workforce and they will need human 3047 01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:52,639 assistance 3048 01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:00,709 harrington cry after his briefings in 3049 01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:03,119 washington dc for eight weeks 3050 01:59:08,149 --> 01:59:05,199 did they tell him some of this 3051 01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:08,159 what made jimmy carter cry 3052 01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:10,400 we don't know uh spiritual beings 3053 01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:12,320 avatars have tried to help us linda 3054 01:59:16,070 --> 01:59:13,679 walton house says 3055 01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:16,080 we are powerful beings 3056 01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:17,920 and the marshal jumps in he goes there 3057 01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:20,159 this is a various forces looking 3058 01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:22,000 there are various forces looking at our 3059 01:59:28,709 --> 01:59:24,960 world for biological resources 3060 01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:28,719 they get some of it from other worlds um 3061 01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:30,800 there's some galactic or universal trade 3062 01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:33,119 treaty that treaty that banned warfare 3063 01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:35,199 and that's why you don't see you know 3064 01:59:40,070 --> 01:59:37,599 warfare or some invasion simply put 3065 01:59:42,709 --> 01:59:40,080 their purposes and intentions are not 3066 01:59:44,470 --> 01:59:42,719 being revealed and that's not acceptable 3067 01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,480 allies are saying the allies of humanity 3068 01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:46,480 told him and that's like i said it is 3069 01:59:50,070 --> 01:59:48,239 channeled information 3070 01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:50,080 he may not call it that but that's what 3071 01:59:54,390 --> 01:59:52,400 it is the allies say you are the native 3072 01:59:56,229 --> 01:59:54,400 race facing other forces taking 3073 01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:56,239 advantage of your resources in large 3074 01:59:59,990 --> 01:59:57,599 part because you're destroying your 3075 02:00:01,750 --> 02:00:00,000 planet and you're using nukes 3076 02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:01,760 and then mary rodwell came in with a 3077 02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:03,760 different perspective we were almost 3078 02:00:07,270 --> 02:00:05,520 done i think she goes i can help with 3079 02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:07,280 people with trauma that's what i do and 3080 02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,639 i have been doing i've worked with 3081 02:00:12,070 --> 02:00:10,639 families and children helped them work 3082 02:00:13,990 --> 02:00:12,080 through it and that changed their 3083 02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,000 perception for the experience 3084 02:00:18,709 --> 02:00:16,080 free said 85 said they had a psycho 3085 02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:18,719 spiritual transformation tells she tells 3086 02:00:22,629 --> 02:00:20,320 her clients to use her their intuition 3087 02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:22,639 as far as judging beings and not how 3088 02:00:26,709 --> 02:00:24,800 they look some of her clients talk about 3089 02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:26,719 coming from other planets star systems 3090 02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:28,159 and other dimensions 3091 02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:30,560 she's like i came here to help 3092 02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:34,550 talks about the eight-year-olds who said 3093 02:00:38,390 --> 02:00:36,320 mom where are the aliens and the eight 3094 02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:38,400 world eight-year-old also says my family 3095 02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:40,800 are mantis beings my ancestors or ant 3096 02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:42,400 you know mantis beings and when i die 3097 02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:45,119 i'm going to go back to them 3098 02:00:49,669 --> 02:00:46,800 some of these experiences are on board a 3099 02:00:51,750 --> 02:00:49,679 craft in an et body while their human 3100 02:00:53,350 --> 02:00:51,760 body is somewhere else and when they go 3101 02:00:54,709 --> 02:00:53,360 back to that human body it's like a ball 3102 02:00:56,870 --> 02:00:54,719 of light flies through the air and then 3103 02:00:58,950 --> 02:00:56,880 just enters the human body 3104 02:01:02,070 --> 02:00:58,960 and we've all suspected that balls of 3105 02:01:03,350 --> 02:01:02,080 light might be some conscious entity so 3106 02:01:05,189 --> 02:01:03,360 that's interesting 3107 02:01:06,790 --> 02:01:05,199 over and over i have 3108 02:01:08,709 --> 02:01:06,800 she hears uh 3109 02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:08,719 from these experiencers the kids i've 3110 02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:10,000 come here to help 3111 02:01:13,750 --> 02:01:12,400 lots of kids saying that 3112 02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:13,760 some saying it's their first human 3113 02:01:20,830 --> 02:01:18,470 or they'll say i came from a planet one 3114 02:01:23,750 --> 02:01:20,840 where i was a blue 3115 02:01:25,510 --> 02:01:23,760 being my family is out there but i came 3116 02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:25,520 here to help i chose this life to come 3117 02:01:29,270 --> 02:01:27,760 here because she has hundreds of stories 3118 02:01:30,229 --> 02:01:29,280 like that and then barbara lamb goes i 3119 02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:30,239 do too 3120 02:01:34,550 --> 02:01:32,800 and mary says mary says rod rottweil 3121 02:01:35,669 --> 02:01:34,560 says physical consciousness experience 3122 02:01:37,669 --> 02:01:35,679 we need to look at this in a 3123 02:01:39,350 --> 02:01:37,679 multi-dimensional experience and then 3124 02:01:41,430 --> 02:01:39,360 danny the summers marshall summers he 3125 02:01:43,109 --> 02:01:41,440 says did the allies tell you that they 3126 02:01:44,950 --> 02:01:43,119 can recard this is one of the funniest 3127 02:01:47,189 --> 02:01:44,960 things i've ever heard from danny a 3128 02:01:48,629 --> 02:01:47,199 lawyer mind not the question i'll show 3129 02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:48,639 you 3130 02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:52,320 they can reincarnate as a human and 3131 02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:53,920 martin says that's an odd question i 3132 02:01:56,550 --> 02:01:55,360 have no idea because the allies make 3133 02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:56,560 sure they share wisdom without 3134 02:02:01,270 --> 02:01:58,800 interfering especially in our adolescent 3135 02:02:03,589 --> 02:02:01,280 stage of evolution since we're in our 3136 02:02:05,750 --> 02:02:03,599 adolescent stage i don't doubt people 3137 02:02:08,470 --> 02:02:05,760 have had positive experiences 3138 02:02:10,149 --> 02:02:08,480 and you mary have helped them but i hear 3139 02:02:12,070 --> 02:02:10,159 different stories from other researchers 3140 02:02:13,990 --> 02:02:12,080 where their personal lives are so 3141 02:02:15,589 --> 02:02:14,000 altered in lives impacted to where they 3142 02:02:17,669 --> 02:02:15,599 spend the rest of their lives dealing 3143 02:02:20,149 --> 02:02:17,679 with it it's our world and we have a 3144 02:02:23,350 --> 02:02:20,159 right to tell them they can't do that 3145 02:02:25,669 --> 02:02:23,360 and that's what i'm cheering 3146 02:02:27,189 --> 02:02:25,679 um danny says 3147 02:02:28,550 --> 02:02:27,199 this is my favorite thing ever from 3148 02:02:31,430 --> 02:02:28,560 danny he goes 3149 02:02:34,310 --> 02:02:31,440 so et souls are choosing to reincarnate 3150 02:02:36,510 --> 02:02:34,320 to earth in order to help us 3151 02:02:38,390 --> 02:02:36,520 isn't that a way of getting around the 3152 02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:38,400 non-intervention rule if a not 3153 02:02:42,709 --> 02:02:40,480 interventional not interventional rule 3154 02:02:45,109 --> 02:02:42,719 exists or are they breaking that rule 3155 02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:45,119 law by going around by incarnating back 3156 02:02:47,910 --> 02:02:46,480 here to help us 3157 02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:47,920 it's so funny because it's like he's 3158 02:02:51,830 --> 02:02:49,760 thinking as a legal lawyer that's 3159 02:02:54,229 --> 02:02:51,840 amazing they're not allowed to intervene 3160 02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:54,239 but if they reincarnate from another 3161 02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:55,920 planet into this planet then they can 3162 02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:57,840 help and it doesn't break the law so 3163 02:03:02,310 --> 02:02:59,440 it's okay 3164 02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:02,320 i laughed at that 3165 02:03:05,830 --> 02:03:03,840 and then barbara lam's like maybe we've 3166 02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:05,840 been ets in other lifetimes i think one 3167 02:03:09,109 --> 02:03:07,280 of the reasons why some of us are so 3168 02:03:11,350 --> 02:03:09,119 interested in this subject is because 3169 02:03:13,030 --> 02:03:11,360 we've had some of those experiences and 3170 02:03:15,669 --> 02:03:13,040 memories 3171 02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:15,679 talking about all of us including me i 3172 02:03:18,950 --> 02:03:17,760 don't have any any memories of that 3173 02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:18,960 barbara 3174 02:03:24,390 --> 02:03:23,119 spoken with eight et human hybrids who 3175 02:03:25,990 --> 02:03:24,400 are living here 3176 02:03:28,149 --> 02:03:26,000 they're here for total service and total 3177 02:03:29,589 --> 02:03:28,159 benevolence so many different species 3178 02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:29,599 that come here and interact with humans 3179 02:03:33,589 --> 02:03:31,440 so it's difficult to generalize on those 3180 02:03:34,870 --> 02:03:33,599 beings as far as the the hybrids coming 3181 02:03:36,550 --> 02:03:34,880 here to help us 3182 02:03:39,109 --> 02:03:36,560 totally different than the jacobs 3183 02:03:40,470 --> 02:03:39,119 hybrids uh danny says maybe maybe things 3184 02:03:42,950 --> 02:03:40,480 are so desperate on this planet that 3185 02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,960 there's a transmigration of souls here 3186 02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:44,560 to help us with our massive problems 3187 02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:47,440 maybe uh 3188 02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:49,360 you know we had telepathy it's like to 3189 02:03:54,310 --> 02:03:52,560 mark sims or not mark sims 3190 02:03:59,109 --> 02:03:54,320 um 3191 02:04:00,550 --> 02:03:59,119 another way that they 3192 02:04:02,629 --> 02:04:00,560 they both appear to be a form of 3193 02:04:04,310 --> 02:04:02,639 intervention you know either souls 3194 02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:04,320 coming here if you believe that to help 3195 02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:06,239 us with the young kids or they're 3196 02:04:09,669 --> 02:04:08,560 sending messages to people like marshall 3197 02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:09,679 summers 3198 02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:11,440 and the allies of humanity telling us 3199 02:04:15,189 --> 02:04:13,599 what's going on danny's trying to be the 3200 02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:15,199 peacekeeper trying to keep everybody 3201 02:04:19,109 --> 02:04:16,960 happy and then 3202 02:04:20,790 --> 02:04:19,119 whitley jumps in finally he goes 90 3203 02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:20,800 minutes into the conversation he goes we 3204 02:04:24,950 --> 02:04:22,320 should not forget that our informational 3205 02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:24,960 resources are extremely fragile relying 3206 02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:26,800 on versions and narratives that are not 3207 02:04:31,589 --> 02:04:29,679 based in any kind uh in any kind of 3208 02:04:33,430 --> 02:04:31,599 concrete reality all we have 3209 02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:33,440 unfortunately sorry that's all we have 3210 02:04:38,069 --> 02:04:36,000 he says this presence does not manifest 3211 02:04:39,910 --> 02:04:38,079 in a concrete way and behind the scenes 3212 02:04:41,589 --> 02:04:39,920 they're trying to hide an extraordinary 3213 02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:41,599 failure 3214 02:04:44,629 --> 02:04:43,280 behind the scenes meaning the humans 3215 02:04:46,229 --> 02:04:44,639 behind the scenes they're extreme 3216 02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:46,239 they're trying to hide an extraordinary 3217 02:04:48,870 --> 02:04:47,280 failure 3218 02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:48,880 need to know and he talks about the 3219 02:04:52,390 --> 02:04:50,480 whole black projects where you have to 3220 02:04:54,390 --> 02:04:52,400 need to know to get into these programs 3221 02:04:55,510 --> 02:04:54,400 and it's just not good for us he says 3222 02:04:56,870 --> 02:04:55,520 when you don't know what you're talking 3223 02:04:59,350 --> 02:04:56,880 about as far as what we're dealing with 3224 02:05:00,870 --> 02:04:59,360 you cannot use need to know that's why 3225 02:05:02,629 --> 02:05:00,880 we haven't made any progress if you 3226 02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:02,639 believe that if you believe we haven't 3227 02:05:06,229 --> 02:05:04,480 made any progress on crash retrievals 3228 02:05:07,830 --> 02:05:06,239 it's because it's such a small amount of 3229 02:05:10,550 --> 02:05:07,840 scientists who are working on it that's 3230 02:05:11,990 --> 02:05:10,560 why people like eric weinstein say 3231 02:05:13,510 --> 02:05:12,000 say my friends don't know about this 3232 02:05:14,870 --> 02:05:13,520 they're the top scientists in the world 3233 02:05:16,229 --> 02:05:14,880 well they don't have a need to know 3234 02:05:18,470 --> 02:05:16,239 unfortunately that's how it is and it's 3235 02:05:20,310 --> 02:05:18,480 got to change 3236 02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:20,320 whitley says i went through hell with my 3237 02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:22,719 my experiences and our son is probably 3238 02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:24,800 still traumatized from it you know here 3239 02:05:28,390 --> 02:05:26,960 it is i had contact with the blondes 3240 02:05:30,229 --> 02:05:28,400 greys physical 3241 02:05:32,870 --> 02:05:30,239 humans connected with them in various 3242 02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:32,880 ways one was connected to the blondes 3243 02:05:36,950 --> 02:05:34,480 and introduced to me to some of them he 3244 02:05:38,790 --> 02:05:36,960 said if you start a war with the greys i 3245 02:05:40,390 --> 02:05:38,800 guess this is the blonde talking if you 3246 02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:40,400 start a war with the greys they will 3247 02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:41,920 never let you win and they will never 3248 02:05:44,950 --> 02:05:43,440 let you stop fighting 3249 02:05:47,189 --> 02:05:44,960 maybe that's why in whitley goes maybe 3250 02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:47,199 that's why the air force is so mum you 3251 02:05:50,470 --> 02:05:48,800 know maybe they have you know maybe they 3252 02:05:53,030 --> 02:05:50,480 started a war with them he goes 3253 02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:53,040 meanwhile the navy is very vocal 3254 02:05:55,109 --> 02:05:53,840 um 3255 02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:55,119 because they haven't i don't know he 3256 02:05:57,910 --> 02:05:55,920 goes 3257 02:05:58,870 --> 02:05:57,920 don't think they understood our world at 3258 02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,880 all 3259 02:06:02,550 --> 02:06:00,960 the greys if someone shoots at them they 3260 02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:02,560 shoot back 3261 02:06:08,069 --> 02:06:03,920 they won't but they won't be mad at the 3262 02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:08,079 person standing next to them you know 3263 02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:09,119 that's what he said he goes we're 3264 02:06:13,109 --> 02:06:10,880 hopelessly entangled and trying to make 3265 02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:13,119 sense of something we'll probably never 3266 02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:14,800 be able to make sense of 3267 02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:17,280 and danny says 3268 02:06:20,870 --> 02:06:19,360 they're a real physical presence and 3269 02:06:22,149 --> 02:06:20,880 assuming most of these craft are not 3270 02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:22,159 ours 3271 02:06:26,149 --> 02:06:24,480 you know 3272 02:06:28,390 --> 02:06:26,159 assuming that some treaty has been 3273 02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:28,400 signed why have things increased lately 3274 02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:30,800 with all of the sightings and the navy 3275 02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:31,920 and 3276 02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:33,280 then linda molten hal brings up the 3277 02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:35,440 alcubierre drive warp drive talks about 3278 02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:37,760 you know pulling space in and you can be 3279 02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:40,000 to alpha centauri and back by lunch she 3280 02:06:43,109 --> 02:06:41,440 mentions then she mentions the salvatore 3281 02:06:45,350 --> 02:06:43,119 paise patents 3282 02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:45,360 um and the alcubierre warp drive and 3283 02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:46,719 she's kind of mixing them together i 3284 02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:48,960 don't think they're combined and 3285 02:06:53,990 --> 02:06:51,840 she mentions the alkubia warp drive 3286 02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:54,000 patent from a few years ago but i think 3287 02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:55,679 she's mixing that with the salvatore 3288 02:06:59,030 --> 02:06:56,719 paise 3289 02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:59,040 patents which i was told 3290 02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:00,560 are garbage 3291 02:07:05,109 --> 02:07:03,280 um from really smart people who could 3292 02:07:07,589 --> 02:07:05,119 not believe how it made it that far that 3293 02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:07,599 patent um 3294 02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:09,679 she goes that's how that the al kirby or 3295 02:07:11,910 --> 02:07:10,800 drives because that's how it's going to 3296 02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:11,920 open up that's how the government's 3297 02:07:14,950 --> 02:07:13,360 going to tell us everything 3298 02:07:16,629 --> 02:07:14,960 she said you know they're going to 3299 02:07:18,629 --> 02:07:16,639 bring in some technology and that 3300 02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:18,639 that'll connect to the non-humans that 3301 02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:20,639 are here and she says government sources 3302 02:07:23,669 --> 02:07:22,079 that she has 3303 02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:23,679 have always been right and they say the 3304 02:07:28,229 --> 02:07:26,000 big picture is you know her government 3305 02:07:29,510 --> 02:07:28,239 sources that she has or source that have 3306 02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:29,520 always been right tell her the big 3307 02:07:33,589 --> 02:07:31,440 picture is we are truly in a 3308 02:07:36,229 --> 02:07:33,599 revolutionary time that may or may not 3309 02:07:39,990 --> 02:07:36,239 be cyclical and we may get some tech 3310 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:41,350 she had a discussion recently with 3311 02:07:45,189 --> 02:07:42,880 someone who knows a lot about 3312 02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:45,199 underground facilities and knows about 3313 02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:46,480 non-humans 3314 02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:49,199 uh we think x isn't this person told her 3315 02:07:54,550 --> 02:07:52,000 we think x is an ally but they lie 3316 02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:54,560 she goes but we lie and linda goes but 3317 02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:57,040 we lie when we take the cat out i'm not 3318 02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:58,719 sure if this person told her or she told 3319 02:08:02,229 --> 02:08:00,480 him she goes so these beings lie she 3320 02:08:04,950 --> 02:08:02,239 goes but we lie when we take the cat out 3321 02:08:06,470 --> 02:08:04,960 to the vet i don't know what that means 3322 02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:06,480 number one i never lied to my cat when i 3323 02:08:09,830 --> 02:08:08,560 took her to the vet so 3324 02:08:12,629 --> 02:08:09,840 i think she's trying to make the comment 3325 02:08:13,910 --> 02:08:12,639 that everybody lies but you know 3326 02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:13,920 and this person of source told her 3327 02:08:16,709 --> 02:08:16,000 there's 22 solar systems we communicated 3328 02:08:18,629 --> 02:08:16,719 with 3329 02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:18,639 biggest problem is coming the biggest 3330 02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:21,199 problem is do because a dark complex 3331 02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:22,719 underground 3332 02:08:28,149 --> 02:08:25,760 psyche 3333 02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,159 we're now the surface species while so 3334 02:08:32,470 --> 02:08:30,639 much is going on at different layers 3335 02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:32,480 musk's goal is to bring one million 3336 02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:34,560 beings from earth to underground lava 3337 02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,360 tubes on mars by 2050 she goes which is 3338 02:08:41,109 --> 02:08:39,520 not that far off by the way 3339 02:08:42,310 --> 02:08:41,119 none of the power brokers and none of 3340 02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:42,320 the folks who communicate with the 3341 02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:45,599 non-humans want us to know anything and 3342 02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:47,199 whitley says 3343 02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:49,280 technology might be blot out to the 3344 02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:51,760 public via corporations like patel 3345 02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:53,440 uh 3346 02:08:57,669 --> 02:08:55,199 that would be a way for the et's to help 3347 02:09:00,470 --> 02:08:57,679 without direct intervention 3348 02:09:01,990 --> 02:09:00,480 to bend space you know and travel like 3349 02:09:04,069 --> 02:09:02,000 that which she was talking about we need 3350 02:09:06,310 --> 02:09:04,079 so much energy but there's another model 3351 02:09:07,830 --> 02:09:06,320 that accounts for anomalies that cannot 3352 02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:07,840 that can't be accounted for in the 3353 02:09:12,310 --> 02:09:10,480 standard standard model of physics 3354 02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:12,320 and accounts for them by saying 3355 02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:14,320 there are other dimensionalities in 3356 02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:16,639 other words we can create human 3357 02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:19,040 traversable wormholes and then he talks 3358 02:09:22,629 --> 02:09:20,719 about the recent sightings 3359 02:09:25,430 --> 02:09:22,639 uh you know these beings are saying hey 3360 02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:25,440 look at this he goes we can build it 3361 02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:27,520 speaking as one of the beings we can 3362 02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:29,199 build it maybe you can too maybe they're 3363 02:09:32,870 --> 02:09:30,639 trying to produce we know we've thought 3364 02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:32,880 about that a lot of us have until we 3365 02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:34,400 take our own place in this we won't be 3366 02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:36,480 able to do it with rockets 3367 02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:38,079 but if we can traverse it the same way 3368 02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:40,239 they do then yes because 3369 02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:42,639 maybe we'll then get their respect 3370 02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:45,199 it's a new world if we can take it 3371 02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:46,880 if we don't take it they're going to 3372 02:09:59,189 --> 02:09:56,950 and then linda i think it was linda 3373 02:10:00,790 --> 02:09:59,199 who claims she has a man or source who 3374 02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:00,800 was part of the secret keepers that went 3375 02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:02,639 through a jump room 3376 02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:05,119 from alaska to hawaii he died at an 3377 02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:07,040 early age in his 40s because that's what 3378 02:10:10,069 --> 02:10:08,800 the technology of the jump room does to 3379 02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:10,079 a human body 3380 02:10:14,870 --> 02:10:12,400 i don't have any opinion on jump rooms i 3381 02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:14,880 wish jump rooms were real 3382 02:10:17,510 --> 02:10:16,000 um 3383 02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:17,520 and whitley said 3384 02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:19,040 trump rooms don't matter they're not 3385 02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:22,000 giving us a damn thing because whitley's 3386 02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:23,520 kind of saying he thinks yeah some of 3387 02:10:27,109 --> 02:10:25,199 this amazing technology does exist he 3388 02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:27,119 goes but they're not giving us a damn 3389 02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:29,520 thing we need to do it outside of that 3390 02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:31,119 secret world 3391 02:10:35,350 --> 02:10:32,960 they're not valid of this they're not 3392 02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:35,360 valid as this part of the human journey 3393 02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:37,440 so that world doesn't matter they can 3394 02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:38,800 all die 3395 02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:41,360 what matters is our world the outside 3396 02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:44,560 world use humanity to do it forget the 3397 02:10:47,350 --> 02:10:45,920 secret people 3398 02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:47,360 and then barbara lamb goes and then we 3399 02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:49,280 got the space uh secret space program 3400 02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:51,040 you know they go to mars and the moon 3401 02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:52,880 i'm like oh no 3402 02:10:57,430 --> 02:10:55,599 do not say curry good and sheen goes she 3403 02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:57,440 and goes barbara we need to be a little 3404 02:11:02,069 --> 02:10:59,920 careful as there have been some uh there 3405 02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:02,079 has been some transparent lying from 3406 02:11:06,069 --> 02:11:03,599 some of those people 3407 02:11:08,950 --> 02:11:06,079 she goes oh oh okay okay and then marry 3408 02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:08,960 rodwell this is the last part she goes 3409 02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:10,560 there are kids talking about coming here 3410 02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:12,239 to help and those kids know things about 3411 02:11:16,149 --> 02:11:14,239 physics and other scientists that in 3412 02:11:17,589 --> 02:11:16,159 other sciences that they shouldn't know 3413 02:11:19,030 --> 02:11:17,599 and then she knows doctors and 3414 02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:19,040 professionals who are having these 3415 02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:21,520 experiences but they will not talk about 3416 02:11:28,069 --> 02:11:25,760 it yet because of ugly stigma 3417 02:11:30,069 --> 02:11:28,079 um and may you know yeah if we had 3418 02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:30,079 doctors and lawyers and scientists 3419 02:11:33,669 --> 02:11:31,360 talking about 3420 02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:33,679 experiences and abductions that would be 3421 02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:35,360 huge but i do not expect them to come 3422 02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:38,400 out so 3423 02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:41,840 that is it john dr john out cheryl is a 3424 02:11:47,189 --> 02:11:44,159 pathologist thank you honor thank you 3425 02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:49,510 i'm just looking at that stuff now only 3426 02:11:53,430 --> 02:11:51,520 22 people left i know i almost left in 3427 02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:53,440 the middle it was too much how much was 3428 02:11:58,149 --> 02:11:55,760 it two hours and 10 minutes and if you 3429 02:12:01,990 --> 02:11:58,159 left comments and i didn't see them i'm 3430 02:12:06,310 --> 02:12:03,589 you seriously need to be considering 3431 02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:06,320 written history not just pop e.t culture 3432 02:12:10,229 --> 02:12:07,920 it has nothing to do with me considering 3433 02:12:12,310 --> 02:12:10,239 i agreed to do the conference and i 3434 02:12:14,629 --> 02:12:12,320 agreed to do every day of the conference 3435 02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:14,639 even if it's stuff i don't agree with so 3436 02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:16,079 it doesn't matter if i agree with what 3437 02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:17,599 i'm saying i'm sharing what was at the 3438 02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:19,520 conference that's it i'm reporting on 3439 02:12:25,430 --> 02:12:21,760 what the conference is so 3440 02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:27,750 anything else i need to eat 3441 02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:30,320 tomorrow is like i said el zondo and 3442 02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:32,159 ralph blumenthal 3443 02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:34,000 wasn't a great day for me like i said a 3444 02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:35,360 lot of this stuff is not in my 3445 02:12:39,030 --> 02:12:36,639 wheelhouse a lot of the stuff i don't 3446 02:12:41,030 --> 02:12:39,040 know what to make of it but like i said 3447 02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:41,040 i agreed to share and i wasn't going to 3448 02:12:44,149 --> 02:12:42,800 skip i'm already missing 3449 02:12:45,350 --> 02:12:44,159 something going on with mark sims and 3450 02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:45,360 the guy he works with you guys are 3451 02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:46,560 welcome 3452 02:12:49,589 --> 02:12:47,599 um 3453 02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:49,599 bug thank you for staying up 3454 02:12:55,430 --> 02:12:53,040 uh thank you i can't read it infinite 3455 02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:55,440 tyler center thai center 3456 02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:56,880 thank you 3457 02:12:59,350 --> 02:12:57,679 yeah 3458 02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:59,360 gang today it's just a flying wall just 3459 02:13:02,229 --> 02:13:00,480 sharing 3460 02:13:03,510 --> 02:13:02,239 you know when i'm hearing a lot of the 3461 02:13:04,709 --> 02:13:03,520 stuff as i'm taking notes i'm like i 3462 02:13:06,629 --> 02:13:04,719 don't even want to take notes because i 3463 02:13:08,790 --> 02:13:06,639 think this stuff is too outlandish it's 3464 02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:08,800 not going to help us um but people are 3465 02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:10,800 sharing a story so at least they have a 3466 02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:12,880 place to go if you have this experience 3467 02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:14,400 you want to share the story you have 3468 02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:17,840 places you can go barbra lamb 3469 02:13:21,510 --> 02:13:20,079 mary rodwell there are other therapists 3470 02:13:23,510 --> 02:13:21,520 out there thank you julie for staying 3471 02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:23,520 with the whole time 3472 02:13:27,669 --> 02:13:26,400 i know uh it was a lot um 3473 02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:27,679 so 3474 02:13:33,189 --> 02:13:30,480 tomorrow see you guys tomorrow with lou 3475 02:13:34,709 --> 02:13:33,199 and hopefully lou breaks some news 3476 02:13:37,750 --> 02:13:34,719 if he does i'll try to tweet it out as